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UncleScooter · July 9th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Brian Caldwell from CJ announced at Summit today that there will be no end of html links.

ABW no doubt played a huge part in this.

wallstreet · July 9th, 2006, 07:29 PM

Wow, that's great! Although I still hope they can make legacy link default.

Rexanne · July 9th, 2006, 07:32 PM

Very cool! Thanks for the good news Unc!

MoneyBusiness · July 9th, 2006, 07:34 PM

Are you serious? Man, that just made my day!

Thanks for sharing the news!

Rhea · July 9th, 2006, 07:40 PM

Great, great news! Now I can update my CJ links. I figured my time was better spent on other things.

Thanks for sharing, Scooter!

(Gee, the Mets won, Italy won, affiliate marketers won...it's shaping up to be a pretty terrific day!)

davidh · July 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM

"Now I can update my CJ links."

Still takes extra clicks and extra time to "access" the link.

davidh · July 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM

The Mets won? They must be back to playing the backwater teams in their own division.

mousejockey · July 9th, 2006, 07:48 PM

Really...?
This isn't a belated April Fools Day joke is it?
If not it's fantastic news!

Now if cj could just make the old html links the default all would be sweet

SALocalcom · July 9th, 2006, 07:58 PM

I won't believe it till some time in 2007. They don't seem to be real straight up with us.

chetf · July 9th, 2006, 08:01 PM

But wait a minute, that just means they are screwing all those affiliates/merchants who were clamoring for this great "feature".... hehehe... dishonest pr deserves the sh*tstorm they got on this.

Chet

simcat · July 9th, 2006, 08:07 PM

Great News!
plz dont change your mind again cj!

glinted · July 9th, 2006, 08:10 PM

Still nearly unusable at the moment trying to access html links and having to deal with all the warnings and we want to be able to select multi html links as we had until a few weeks ago.

Glad to see our pressure is starting to show ;0

Andy Rodriguez · July 9th, 2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glinted

Glad to see our pressure is starting to show ;0

Between ABW and the sea of red and white buttons on attendees shirts today, Day 1, the message was load and clear....

Congrats ABW, Congrats summit attendees that wore the buttons and most of all, congrats to Scoot for the idea.....

Trust · July 9th, 2006, 08:19 PM

So it's official? I'm waiting till they put something up at CJ. I want to see it say html links will always be there as an option. Hopefully they put html back as default, takes extra steps to get the html links.

"For a limited time, you may access legacy code for this link by selecting the 'Access Legacy Code' button below."

And to see them change that part when getting links.

MoneyBusiness · July 9th, 2006, 08:20 PM

Same here. It's nice now, but knowing CJ....

Oh, and thanks Scooter for the avatar too!

Rexanne · July 9th, 2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Rodriguez

Between ABW and the sea of red and white buttons on attendees shirts today, Day 1, the message was load and clear....

Congrats ABW, Congrats summit attendees that wore the buttons and most of all, congrats to Scoot for the idea.....

Anyone get a picture of all those red & white buttons at the summit? Would be a gorgeous one to share.

Greg Rice · July 9th, 2006, 09:10 PM

Nice! Thanks for the great news UncleScooter.

enginez · July 9th, 2006, 09:23 PM

As much as I would love the legacy links to be reinstated as the default, I'm not sure I want to tempt fate - their capacity to screw up is as strong as ever...

UncleScooter · July 9th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrustNo1

So it's official? I'm waiting till they put something up at CJ. I want to see it say html links will always be there as an option. Hopefully they put html back as default, takes extra steps to get the html links.

"For a limited time, you may access legacy code for this link by selecting the 'Access Legacy Code' button below."

And to see them change that part when getting links.

Wow, Trust. You are expecting communication from CJ? Why don't you go ahead and ask for world peace too

I asked him about fixing it back like it was so we don't have to jump through hoops to get the legacy links and he did not comment on that. In a situation where we have counted our success by baby steps, we made a huge leap today, now I guess we continue baby steps to get the interface back to where it does not try to talk you out of using html links.

I doubt very seriously that CJ will make a formal announcement of this as it would mean that they admit they were wrong to some degree. I don't remember them ever admitting fault for anything and my guess is that they will not start now. But at least they have listened to us. That is a LARGE step in the right direction.

Trust · July 9th, 2006, 10:30 PM

"I doubt very seriously that CJ will make a formal announcement of this as it would mean that they admit they were wrong to some degree."

I'm a seeing is believing type of guy. Until I get an email saying that or they post it at CJ that html links will remain, then nothing has changed for me. I don't doubt that's what you been told but it needs to be official. The html links are going to remain as an option or they aren't. If they are going to remain then they need to let everybody know.

UncleScooter · July 9th, 2006, 10:34 PM

I completely agree with you Trust.

landplanfran · July 9th, 2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleScooter

Brian Caldwell from CJ announced at Summit today that there will be no end of html links.

ABW no doubt played a huge part in this.

In the past CJ has been disingenuous in their ABW posts. Can we trust them and their parent company? Does this Brian Caldwell have the power to enforce this or will he get his hands slapped for this statement?

~Michelle · July 9th, 2006, 11:01 PM

Woohoo!! That is great news!

As soon as I see it in black and white on the CJ site I will let my full out celebration begin!

Congrats to everyone for putting the pressure on and getting the point across!

7-days · July 9th, 2006, 11:45 PM

Although this is great news, CJ has really taken a hit from this. Just look at all the merchants opening up programs internally or at other networks and look at all the affilaites (including myself) moving my links elsewhere.

The fact is, CJ broke our trust. They broke our confidence. They tried to pull something over on us (we still don't know exactly what) and we stood tall, united and sad "NO!". Congratulations to all of you who spoke up and stood firm. We are the affilate marketers, not CJ, we know how we make our money, not CJ, we know when somethng is not right, not CJ, and we know we can now unite and make changes in the future. This is a great day. Thanks everyone!!!

ecomcity · July 9th, 2006, 11:54 PM

I doubt those at VC pulling the strings on CJ's puppet got more pressure from ABWers then all the bloggers. Good to see my CJ links stay as I only put up 2 sets of java script links to test them on actual page load times. Good news all around and hopefully CJ's management will fight any stupid VC ideas to revise their original mission plan.

July 9th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#1
UncleScooter Internet Cowboy Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 4,735	LMI all but dead Brian Caldwell from CJ announced at Summit today that there will be no end of html links. ABW no doubt played a huge part in this. __________________

July 9th, 2006, 07:32 PM	#3
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July 9th, 2006, 07:40 PM	#5
Rhea Troll Killer and best Snooper! I decide when the pigs fly! Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: New York, USA Posts: 6,180	Great, great news! Now I can update my CJ links. I figured my time was better spent on other things. Thanks for sharing, Scooter! (Gee, the Mets won, Italy won, affiliate marketers won...it's shaping up to be a pretty terrific day!) __________________ Retro Fridge Magnets Snarky T-Shirts Sports Fan T-Shirts Foodie T-Shirts Animal Lover T-Shirts

July 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM	#6
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July 9th, 2006, 07:29 PM	#2
wallstreet Full Member Join Date: June 10th, 2006 Posts: 112	Wow, that's great! Although I still hope they can make legacy link default.

July 9th, 2006, 07:34 PM	#4
MoneyBusiness ABW Ambassador Join Date: March 14th, 2006 Posts: 2,052	Are you serious? Man, that just made my day! Thanks for sharing the news!

July 9th, 2006, 07:48 PM	#8
mousejockey ABW Ambassador Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 2,503	Really...? This isn't a belated April Fools Day joke is it? If not it's fantastic news! Now if cj could just make the old html links the default all would be sweet

July 9th, 2006, 07:58 PM	#9
SALocalcom Full Member Join Date: April 15th, 2005 Location: Marfa, TX Posts: 154	I won't believe it till some time in 2007. They don't seem to be real straight up with us.

July 9th, 2006, 08:01 PM	#10
chetf ABW Ambassador Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 4,477	But wait a minute, that just means they are screwing all those affiliates/merchants who were clamoring for this great "feature".... hehehe... dishonest pr deserves the sh*tstorm they got on this. Chet

July 9th, 2006, 08:07 PM	#11
simcat ABW Ambassador Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 1,685	Great News! plz dont change your mind again cj!

July 9th, 2006, 08:10 PM	#12
glinted ABW Ambassador Join Date: November 1st, 2005 Posts: 1,601	Still nearly unusable at the moment trying to access html links and having to deal with all the warnings and we want to be able to select multi html links as we had until a few weeks ago. Glad to see our pressure is starting to show ;0

July 9th, 2006, 08:19 PM	#14
Trust Moderator - Lounge Gear Connoisseur Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 22,655	So it's official? I'm waiting till they put something up at CJ. I want to see it say html links will always be there as an option. Hopefully they put html back as default, takes extra steps to get the html links. "For a limited time, you may access legacy code for this link by selecting the 'Access Legacy Code' button below." And to see them change that part when getting links. Last edited by Trust; July 9th, 2006 at 08:37 PM.

July 9th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#15
MoneyBusiness ABW Ambassador Join Date: March 14th, 2006 Posts: 2,052	Same here. It's nice now, but knowing CJ.... Oh, and thanks Scooter for the avatar too!

July 9th, 2006, 09:10 PM	#17
Greg Rice OPM / Moderator Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,797	Nice! Thanks for the great news UncleScooter. __________________ Greg Rice Affiliate Program Management New Program - GuitarJamz www.gocmc.com info(AT)gocmc.com \| 330-259-1223 \| AIM:Greg gocmc \| Yahoo:gocmc \| MSN Live:gocmc@live.com \| ICQ: 191306688 \| Twitter \| Twitter Program Announcements Join us! - GuitarJamz \| DiscountCandleShop/CheeseSupply \| MiNeeds.com \| SurplusMags

July 9th, 2006, 09:23 PM	#18
enginez Full Member Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Mebourne, Oz Posts: 258	As much as I would love the legacy links to be reinstated as the default, I'm not sure I want to tempt fate - their capacity to screw up is as strong as ever...

July 9th, 2006, 10:30 PM	#20
Trust Moderator - Lounge Gear Connoisseur Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 22,655	"I doubt very seriously that CJ will make a formal announcement of this as it would mean that they admit they were wrong to some degree." I'm a seeing is believing type of guy. Until I get an email saying that or they post it at CJ that html links will remain, then nothing has changed for me. I don't doubt that's what you been told but it needs to be official. The html links are going to remain as an option or they aren't. If they are going to remain then they need to let everybody know.

July 9th, 2006, 10:34 PM	#21
UncleScooter Internet Cowboy Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Posts: 4,735	I completely agree with you Trust. __________________

July 9th, 2006, 11:01 PM	#23
~Michelle Web Ho - Design B!tch Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,046	Woohoo!! That is great news! As soon as I see it in black and white on the CJ site I will let my full out celebration begin! Congrats to everyone for putting the pressure on and getting the point across! __________________ ~Michelle "All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy." "Work to become, not to acquire." -- Confucius

July 9th, 2006, 11:45 PM	#24
7-days Outsourced Program Manager Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Affiliateville, USA Posts: 8,097	Although this is great news, CJ has really taken a hit from this. Just look at all the merchants opening up programs internally or at other networks and look at all the affilaites (including myself) moving my links elsewhere. The fact is, CJ broke our trust. They broke our confidence. They tried to pull something over on us (we still don't know exactly what) and we stood tall, united and sad "NO!". Congratulations to all of you who spoke up and stood firm. We are the affilate marketers, not CJ, we know how we make our money, not CJ, we know when somethng is not right, not CJ, and we know we can now unite and make changes in the future. This is a great day. Thanks everyone!!! __________________ Ron - 7 Days A Week Marketing ABW Best NEW Affiliate Manager or OPM 2007 ron @ 7daysaweekmarketing.com \| AIM & Yahoo: sevdayweek \| MSN: 7-days Managed Program at SAS: Home Gallery Stores Last edited by 7-days; July 9th, 2006 at 11:56 PM.

July 9th, 2006, 11:54 PM	#25
ecomcity 2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: St Clair Shores MI. Posts: 17,406	I doubt those at VC pulling the strings on CJ's puppet got more pressure from ABWers then all the bloggers. Good to see my CJ links stay as I only put up 2 sets of java script links to test them on actual page load times. Good news all around and hopefully CJ's management will fight any stupid VC ideas to revise their original mission plan. __________________ Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie "What have you done today to put real value into a referral click...from a shoppers viewpoint!"

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