Gibson's Facilities Raided!

Patrick Vesperman · #1 August 29th, 2011, 01:38 PM

Not sure if you've see this, but it's a pretty big deal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...EYWORDS=gibson

Here is Henry J's (CEO) response: Gibson Guitar Corp. Responds to Federal Raid - YouTube

What do you think of all this?

BurgerBoy · #2 August 29th, 2011, 01:46 PM

They are suppose to be importing wood from countries that are not approved by the US Government.

Trust · #3 August 29th, 2011, 02:07 PM

I'm with Gibson on this one, I wish the gov spent their resources on more meaningful issues.

Patrick Vesperman · #4 August 29th, 2011, 02:17 PM

It seems that the general public is siding with Gibson, many for the same reason as you, Trust.

John Powell · #5 August 29th, 2011, 10:10 PM

When you said Gibson all I could think of was Gibson Research.

Witzer · #6 August 29th, 2011, 11:09 PM

The wood was imported from India and last I heard, they were friendly to the American people............

The wood also went through Indian customs and the US customs.....

It is guitars ............Not some secret weapon...

Matt McWilliams · #7 August 31st, 2011, 10:51 AM

I feel comforted knowing my tax dollars are going to enforcing another country's laws about wood stamping (or whatever it is), rather than say:

fighting terrorism
feeding the hungry
fixing that friggin' pothole down the street
paying veterans more
giving it back to me

or about 500 other things they could do with it

I know I feel safer now.

Sigh.

gibson · #8 August 31st, 2011, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Vesperman

What do you think of all this?

I was alarmed when I saw the thread title. briefly. then I was ok.

Patrick Vesperman · #9 September 1st, 2011, 08:54 AM

So it was an effective title?!?

BeepBeep · #10 September 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM

I'm all for more lax or selective enforcement of import laws, fewer agents, a more laid back attitude, less effort and concern to track items to their origin, etc. Paperwork? Who needs that? Correct, complete and verifiable documentation? Too much!

"You say that's a 5 ton crate of . . . lead weights for fishing? Okay, good enough for me. I was wondering why the x-ray scan wasn't quite working . . . but now I know."

Of course, I live on a sailboat somewhere in the Pacific . . . so when the bioweapon is unleashed or the suitcase nuke goes boom it won't be me suffering from U.S. Customs' failure to insure that every import related form was completely and correctly submitted in all cases, or that every item inspected (they only inspect <10% now), etc.

Witzer · #11 September 5th, 2011, 12:40 AM

Balsa wood that has already traversed the system and is stored in a warehouse in Tenn. can be a very dangerous item.

It could be a swat team encounter.

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#1 August 29th, 2011, 01:38 PM
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BurgerBoy Moderator Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 8,278	They are suppose to be importing wood from countries that are not approved by the US Government.

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Trust ABW Ambassador Join Date: January 18th, 2005 Location: Nunya, Business Posts: 23,540	I'm with Gibson on this one, I wish the gov spent their resources on more meaningful issues.

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Patrick Vesperman Affiliate Manager Join Date: June 10th, 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 620	It seems that the general public is siding with Gibson, many for the same reason as you, Trust. __________________ Patrick Vesperman Target Affiliate Program \| Twitter My Food Blog - IfYouCanStomachIt

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John Powell Comfortably Numb Join Date: October 17th, 2005 Location: Bayou Country, LA Posts: 3,420	When you said Gibson all I could think of was Gibson Research. __________________

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Matt McWilliams Affiliate Mgr / ABW Ambassador Join Date: July 21st, 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,813	I feel comforted knowing my tax dollars are going to enforcing another country's laws about wood stamping (or whatever it is), rather than say: fighting terrorism feeding the hungry fixing that friggin' pothole down the street paying veterans more giving it back to me or about 500 other things they could do with it I know I feel safer now. Sigh. __________________ Matt McWilliams, 2009 ABW Affiliate Mgr of the Yr, 2010 Pinnacle Awards Affiliate Mgr of the Yr HometownQuotes Insurance Affiliate Program \| ShareASale Sign-Up \| Affiliate Blog (615) 656-5983 \| matt -at- hometownquotes -dot- com \| All contact info \| Twitter - @HTQAffiliate

#9 September 1st, 2011, 08:54 AM
Patrick Vesperman Affiliate Manager Join Date: June 10th, 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 620	So it was an effective title?!? __________________ Patrick Vesperman Target Affiliate Program \| Twitter My Food Blog - IfYouCanStomachIt

#10 September 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM
BeepBeep Member Join Date: January 17th, 2005 Location: NJ Exit 2 Posts: 57	I'm all for more lax or selective enforcement of import laws, fewer agents, a more laid back attitude, less effort and concern to track items to their origin, etc. Paperwork? Who needs that? Correct, complete and verifiable documentation? Too much! "You say that's a 5 ton crate of . . . lead weights for fishing? Okay, good enough for me. I was wondering why the x-ray scan wasn't quite working . . . but now I know." Of course, I live on a sailboat somewhere in the Pacific . . . so when the bioweapon is unleashed or the suitcase nuke goes boom it won't be me suffering from U.S. Customs' failure to insure that every import related form was completely and correctly submitted in all cases, or that every item inspected (they only inspect <10% now), etc. __________________ I'll get the hang of it eventually. :0)

#11 September 5th, 2011, 12:40 AM
Witzer Tax Paying Member Join Date: November 14th, 2005 Location: I Do Not Live In NC Posts: 1,772	Balsa wood that has already traversed the system and is stored in a warehouse in Tenn. can be a very dangerous item. It could be a swat team encounter. __________________ You must climb this mountain. There is no elevator. ---- Don't stick your finger in the liquid nitrogen. Carolina China Collectibles