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January 5th, 2006, 02:19 PM
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"A Florida man accused of sending huge volumes of spam has been fined an unprecedented $11.2 billion by a US district court.
A lawsuit filed two years ago by the owner of a small Iowa-based ISP, CIS Internet Services, alleged that James McCalla had sent out more than 280 million spam e-mails with return addresses pointing to CIS."
http://www.techworld.com/security/ne...fm?NewsID=5100
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January 5th, 2006, 02:23 PM
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January 5th, 2006, 02:24 PM
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"A Miami company, Rockin Time Holdings, turned up in four lawsuits -- including the Alabama and Iowa cases.
It was run by Damon Decrescenzo, 28, considered the No. 2 spammer in the world, according to the Register of Known Spam Operations, or ROKSO. The list is maintained by The Spamhaus Project, a respected London-based anti-spam group"
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January 5th, 2006, 02:25 PM
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Looks like an ISP from Iowa took them to court and pushed and pushed until the case was won.
Bravo to CIS, the isp in Iowa, for going after them!!!
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January 5th, 2006, 02:26 PM
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Where was the FTC in all of this... they told congress they're doing a good job recently... what a farce.
Imagine how much money this victimized ISP had to pay to pursue this matter!
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January 5th, 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Donuts
Looks like an ISP from Iowa took them to court and pushed and pushed until the case was won.
Bravo to CIS, the isp in Iowa, for going after them!!!
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So, nominate THEM for best service to the industry! They did good.
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January 5th, 2006, 03:03 PM
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At least some action. Great. This ISP deserves an award.
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January 5th, 2006, 03:09 PM
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They shouldn't fine him any money at all.
Instead, they should just force him to read 11 billion erectile dysfunct1on emails against his will.
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January 5th, 2006, 03:22 PM
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So, when does the inevitable bankruptcy come onto the docket?
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Originally Posted by The article in the first post
Despite the huge size of the award, Kramer is reported as being doubtful that he will receive any of the money.
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Far from being an economic "death penalty," it'd be more like 10 years of middlin' luck. The size of the bankruptcy filing would probably make future creditors think it was a typo...
I like Elbow's proposed punishment. The spams he has to read should all have that randomized gibberish text at the bottom, too, in order to ensure that he doesn't just memorize the pitch and repeat it in a mindless stupor 
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January 5th, 2006, 03:24 PM
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They shouldn't fine him any money at all.
Instead, they should just force him to read 11 billion erectile dysfunct1on emails against his will.
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While he is sitting in jail. The monetary fines alone just don't seem to deter. Look as Spamford. He just switched over to adware/spware after the FTC nailed him on the spam. Wonder what he's doing now after the FTC slapped him again for spyware. :  :
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January 5th, 2006, 03:44 PM
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Its more of a feel good story unless they get him to do what Elbow proposes or maybe if the ISP cancels his debt. Isn't cancelled debt equal to income? If so, IRS will give this dude a hard time.
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January 5th, 2006, 04:26 PM
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Problem will never go away because guys like looking at naked women and most believe they have small cranks.
But I'm all for fining the hell out of the spammers and doing the best you can. Technology helps a little.
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January 5th, 2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TrustNo1
Problem will never go away because guys like looking at naked women and most believe they have small cranks.
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LOL - too true
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January 6th, 2006, 06:01 AM
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I think they should have serious jail time, like 5-10 years and a fine that is 10 times what they earned. The sentence should be a punishment and not just the cost of doing business. Bankrupcy should not be available to them for this either.
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January 6th, 2006, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Donuts
CIS Internet Services, alleged that James McCalla had sent out more than 280 million spam e-mails with return addresses pointing to CIS."
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i think that's a big motivation for a lawsuit.
if you get spam emails from individuals, chances are, they weren't sent by the owner of the email address.
i myself have received several spam emails, supposedly sent from my other email account, but which i didn't send. i don't even do email marketing at this time!
so it serves them right, big time.
by the way, i did email my isp to complain, just to let them be aware what's going on. but no, my isp is not cis.
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January 6th, 2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SSanf
So, nominate THEM for best service to the industry! They did good.
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Done.
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January 6th, 2006, 03:54 PM
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Jail time in a maximum security. And he should be forced to give all his Block mates ED pills everyday before the group shower...
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January 6th, 2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by elbowcreek
They shouldn't fine him any money at all.
Instead, they should just force him to read 11 billion erectile dysfunct1on emails against his will.
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January 6th, 2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TrustNo1
Problem will never go away because guys like looking at naked women and most believe they have small cranks.
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what's a crank???
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January 6th, 2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by my2cents
what's a crank???
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That thing you use to jack a car up when you have a flat tire. 
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January 6th, 2006, 05:04 PM
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In the armed forces, the "crank" is the low ranking newbie guy who works in the mess hall washing dishes, not quite senior enough yet to be involved in handling the food.
Now that this spammer was banned from the Internet, he might be washing dishes!
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January 6th, 2006, 05:49 PM
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January 6th, 2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Rice
I think they should have serious jail time, like 5-10 years and a fine that is 10 times what they earned. The sentence should be a punishment and not just the cost of doing business. Bankrupcy should not be available to them for this either.
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This gets my vote.
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