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    Hi,

    Right now i'm paying to join my affiliate program and i'm quite happy with the cash that comes in but I would like to know if it's good to pay to join affiliate programs?

    My nose tells me that the higher the price the less competitors I will have...right?

    Mtlinfo

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    I wouldn't tell anyone about it either if you don't want competition. Paying to sell products through an affiliate program is a strange uncharted territory for me.

    Goal: to earn one dollar without working for it.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heyder:
    I wouldn't tell anyone about it either if you don't want competition. Paying to sell products through an affiliate program is a strange uncharted territory for me.

    Goal: to earn one dollar without working for it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    How else is he supposed to make money in with a MLM pyramid scam if he doesn’t tell anyone about it?

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    I thought affiliate spam signatures/links were banned!!!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heyder:
    I wouldn't tell anyone about it either if you don't want competition. Paying to sell products through an affiliate program is a strange uncharted territory for me.

    Goal: to earn one dollar without working for it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hi Heyder,

    Well most of my question was on the fact that maybe because you pay for an affiliate program that the money is better because of less competition.

    Of course i want to signup more affiliates here but is it better in the long run to scare people (like NewcastleB who sees it as a pyramid) and have just a little amount of affiliates signing up?


    NewcastleB

    Yeah i know it looks like a pyramid and maybe this is good overall because many of you will think it's a scam and not signup and that's the WHOLE point of my post here. Is it better to scare people and have few affiliates or signup at a killer free affiliate program that attracts people by the ton.

    You understand what i'm talking about here?

    Mtlinfo

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> To pay or not to pay...that is the question <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Obviously, the answer is not to pay.

    The good affiliate programs make money by helping you sell their products, not by charging you for the "honor" of doing so.

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    The nerve of some affiliates/pseudo merchant never ceases to amaze me. They come into the center where informed webmasters congregrate and try to recruit us with their crap spin tactics. Make huge bucks in your sleep .recruit others to do your work for you..traffic scams ...MLM ...How I went from 0-$7,500 in just a few months working about 2hrs a week!

    Linda Cox summed it up fine at the height of the .com bubble....
    "Let's begin: the quest for riches
    Q: How long will it take me to get insanely rich?
    A: Depends on you. Probably two weeks. Some people take as long as a month.

    Q: Does it take hard work or long hours to get insanely rich?
    A: No. This is the internet.

    Q: Can just anybody get insanely rich?
    A: Yes. This is the internet.

    Q: How do I proceed?
    A: As you're surfing around the net you'll see banners and links that say things like "Make Fourteen Million Dollars in Ninety Days, Click Here to See How!" Simply click the link to get started.

    Q: It won't really take ninety days though, will it?
    A: Of course not. They just say that so you'll be pleasantly surprised and so it doesn't sound like hype.

    Q: Okay, I've found one that says "Retire to Your Own Caribbean Isle in One Month!" Is that good?
    A: Perfect.

    Q: What does MLM mean?
    A: Nobody really knows. Morons Lose Money has been snidely suggested by the little-brains.

    Q: I signed up and now I sell low phone rates. They say it's the easiest thing to sell because everyone uses a phone. And since it's MLM, by the time my third level is operating I'll be making $345,915.45 per week.
    A: Conservatively.

    Q: They say the first step is to get my mother into the program. Why is my sponsor happy that Mom has Alzheimers?
    A: Your sponsor is a shrewd business person. People with any sort of memory disorder make the best targ... uh, clients. You can switch your mother's long distance carrier for her, and then start calling the other members of her support group.

    Q: That sounds a little fishy.
    A: The ends justify the means. You are offering people substantial savings on long distance. It's for their own good.

    Q: How else can I get new business?
    A: Spam. Spam. Spam.

    Q: I thought spam was bad.
    A: No, spam is good. Anyone who says it's bad is just jealous because their brains are too small.

    Q: But won't I lose my web host and ISP?
    A: In the get-rich-quick business, it's important to cultivate an attitude of zen-like non-attachment toward service providers.

    Q: What else can I do to promote my new business?
    A: Here's a list of additional suggestions:

    Sign up with a free website provider and fill your site with zany colors, clip art annimations and flashy java news feeds.
    Join every free banner exchange or web circle jerk linking pool.
    Get your own free-for-all links page script and spam the submitters.
    Join every opt-in email list with the word Money, Rich or Lackwit in the title.
    Buy software that submits your site URL to the 15,000 most important search engines.
    Buy software that submits your ad to the 50,000 most-read free classified sites.
    Buy software that submits your link to the 100,000 most popular free-for-all link pages.
    Hire a bulk emailer the shaft them on the bill since they can't sue.
    Sponsor a golf tournament or better yet hire some Kwel web firm to make you a FLASH entry page.
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    A: It's possible that you're not very bright. Consult one of your friends who has retired on their internet earnings.

    Q: What if I don't have any friends who have retired on their internet earnings?
    A: Then contact someone on the internet who has retired on their internet earnings.

    Q: What if I've never heard of anyone retiring from their internet earnings?
    A: Well, then maybe you can be the first.

    Q: You're pulling my leg, right?

    A: Oops! Sorry, I thought FAQ stood for Facetiously Answered Questions! Never mind.

    The zanny Net humor above was written by the author Linda Cox ..she has to be the the Howard Stern of Net Broadcasting. Her site was www.lindacox.com now a .com bomb."

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

    Q: I signed up and now I sell low phone rates. They say it's the easiest thing to sell because everyone uses a phone. And since it's MLM, by the time my third level is operating I'll be making $345,915.45 per week.
    A: Conservatively.

    .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    $345,915.45 per week!!! Gimme a fu***** break. I'm making about $1,000 per week and you have the nerve to call my program spam after that!

    What am i suppose to say here...that i made $47.13 last month WOOHOO join in guys.

    I don't make $7,500 each month but by having read the ebook and made it this far making a sale or 2 each day sounds pretty conservative to me.

    What about you then, if 2 sales per day sounds way too to be true and kinda spam, does that mean that you make a $10 sale every 3 months or what?

    Now let's see YOUR SPAM, show me your affiliate URLs so that i can see your "so hot" programs and i'll think about dropping mine if you guys can beat mine.

    First of all, if it's not recurring you can shove it where you think. I like recurring programs that let me take the next 2 summer months off.

    Let's see what you guys got...


    Mtlinfo

    p.s i took me 3 months to arrive there so let's how you made your 14 millions in 90 days ;-)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The zanny Net humor above ~Mike <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Mtlinfo-apparently you can't tell when something's a joke even when it's plainly labeled...

    Nobody's really claiming to make $345,915.45/week! Although I HAVE seen MLM ads which promise just that kind of money, IF you can ever fill the entire 10-level downline with active buyers, that is...

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> To pay or not to pay...that is the question~Mtlinfo<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Oh by the way, the answer to that is Heck No! Merchants pay ME to sell their stuff. ME paying would be backwards!

    ~Revenue is King

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    OOf. The internet has taught me one thing. You can never be too obvious.

    But mtlinfo, how do you jive up your post here with this post on usenet (notice the same id).

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I know you've been blasted with get rich quick gimmicks in the past so
    i will avoid the "how i made a million in 2 days" kind of crap we see
    all the time.

    This being said i found a killer affiliate program that don't pays a 1
    time fee commission but rather a $25/month recurring commission on
    every subscription sold (no it's not porn related btw).

    I was making between 1-2 sales everyday with it and was making $7,500
    in steady recurring commissions month after month while working (if
    you can call this working) about 2 hrs per week mostly when i was
    watching golf in my sunday afternoons.

    The site is called YourOnlineBiz.com and if you would be kind enough
    to use my affiliate link here to see what it's all about, it would
    very nice of you.

    Thank You,

    Richard
    http://www.youronlinebiz.com/?033693 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=03...gle.com&rnum=2


    So Dick. In one of these posts you are lying. Hmmm... While i am not for big govt, sometimes I wish the FTC employed 10,000 more people and had the time to smack people like you down.

    Chet

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    And since there has been nothing educational in this thread, but the funny. I would like to point out for those of your writing copy - Dick writes poor copy.

    Notice he uses the past tense? You made money? Why aren't you making it now? What happened? Make your words active, instead of:

    I was making between 1-2 sales everyday with it and was making $7,500
    in steady recurring commissions month after month while working (if
    you can call this working) about 2 hrs per week mostly when i was
    watching golf in my sunday afternoons.


    Make it

    I am making between 1-2 sales everyday with it and am making $7,500 in steady recurring commissions month after month while working (if
    you can call this working) about 2 hrs per week mostly when i am watching golf in my sunday afternoons.


    Notice how that simple change removes questions and makes the paragraph more active? Remember that when you write copy.

    Chet

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    LOL

    Dick, I think you spammed the wrong place, at the wrong time...

    BTW are you the pianoman or the jewelry man from Quebec?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    instead of:

    I was making between 1-2 sales everyday with it and was making $7,500
    in steady recurring commissions month after month while working (if
    you can call this working) about 2 hrs per week mostly when i was
    watching golf in my sunday afternoons.


    Make it

    I am making between 1-2 sales everyday with it and am making $7,500 in steady recurring commissions month after month while working (if
    you can call this working) about 2 hrs per week mostly when i am watching golf in my sunday afternoons.

    Chet<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Cool :-D Thanks for the tip.

    Btw, does my signature bothers you here because I can take it off if you want to. I'm a newbie here and I though that placing our affiliate # in a signature was the norm like on most boards.


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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mtlinfo:Btw, does my signature bothers you here because I can take it off if you want to. I'm a newbie here and I though that placing our affiliate # in a signature was the norm like on most boards.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Affiliate links as signatures were banned on this forum, see post below,

    http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&...9&m=6276024643

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    As a society, we have evolved to a fairly high level of knowledge and sophistication, but yet we still have "stuff" like this around. Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?

    Oh, by the way, Mtlinfo -- I'm not interested in making a "small investment" with you for this fantastic program, but could I just get the free stuff anyway?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JJJay:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mtlinfo:Btw, does my signature bothers you here because I can take it off if you want to. I'm a newbie here and I though that placing our affiliate # in a signature was the norm like on most boards.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Affiliate links as signatures were banned on this forum, see post below,

    http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=548608979&f=179600589&m=6276024643&lt;HR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

    Funny because in that same thread, Haiko said

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I don't mind an affiliate or site link in the sig as long as the posts aren't exclusively the "me too" ones.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You guys jumped on me and my signature when in fact i was asking a question. If you think that my affiliate ID in my sign is a spam then i've seen a lot of spam on this board.

    I am talking about my signature because this is what all this fuss is about. If you guys would have answered my question we wouldn't be here screaming at each other.

    When a newbie arrives and everyone is screaming SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM when on most boards signatures with advertisements is the norm it tells me a lot about this board.

    If everyone is so SICK about signatures here, please for god's sake make a flashing red messages about this matter otherwise most newbies will freak out and never come back. Unless this is what you want here?

    No need to answer i already know the answer.


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    Are you pap's son? That was the email guy's name right? Same pattern, same response. His a little more flowery but stank the same.

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    Can someone with a bit of good sense tell me what the fuss is all about here?

    I came here to ask a question placing my affiliate program in my signature which is the norm in every board i went (as a former SEO and Adult Webmaster and lord knows i know what boards allow) and suddenly i'm accused of spamming!!!

    Then i see a freak, who take my affiliate url, copy it, go to usenet, paste my url to do a search then see one ad i did, copy the url at Google, come back here and paste that url on this thread accusing me of all kind of BS like i was some kind of child kindnapper or murderer here!!

    What is the problem here EXACTLY! Why all this negative stuff. If it's because i add my affiliate program in my signature to attract more members then alright i'll just take it off.

    If it's because i advertise with ads with different amounts in the body or the headlines then it's current in this industry to test the best clickthrough.

    In many affiliate eBook they recommend just that. You start "how i make an extra 500$ each month" and then change your headlines with "how i make an extra 1,000$ each month" and so on.

    Here i get blasted for reasons i don't get, just for asking a basic question, and the only guy that answers me is a moderator....with an alien head!!!!

    So let me try to figure out this pretty special board here since i'm new here.

    We are affiliates but can't tell anyone which program we use.

    We are on a board allowing signatures but we cannot use them.

    We are affiliates but we can't change our advertising from one ad to another one because some freak will find it and because he is so happy to had found something with the same id # that he has to paste it here screaming fraud to everyone.

    Hmm, this has got to be the weirdest of all bunch of posters i've seen since i started my internet journey in 94.

    I think I'll go to my other boards and ask around if this strange behavior on this board is only perceive by me.

    Mtlinfo

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    MtInfo,

    Obviously you didn't bother reading the follow up post which said:

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A.O. 6/15/03 Affiliate Links in a sig will not be allowed, I'll update the rules accordingly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Please re-read the rules you agreed to - http://www.abestweb.com/rules.htm

    We don't want to sift through the spam, plain and simple!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Haiko:
    MtInfo,

    Obviously you didn't bother reading the follow up post which said:

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A.O. 6/15/03 Affiliate Links in a sig will not be allowed, I'll update the rules accordingly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Please re-read the rules you agreed to - http://www.abestweb.com/rules.htm

    We don't want to sift through the spam, plain and simple!

    &lt;font size="2" face="Verdana"&gt;Haiko_


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    At last a reply with good positive content.

    No problem Haiko, i won't use my affiliate signature anymore.

    Funny because in one thread, you (Haiko) said this...

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I don't mind an affiliate or site link in the sig as long as the posts aren't exclusively the "me too" ones.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    On most "normal" boards, a signature is used to advertise something like i did on my signature in my posts above but how come it's so "touchy" over here.

    Until those monkeys jumped on my back and started screaming for spam the minute i set foot on this board I would have find normal that everyone here uses it's affiliate URL in their signature like you said unless they would mentionned on every post "...hey look at my signature, look at my signature look at my signature".

    Like i said, it's a weird board, there are strange stuff going on here and I can't wait to see the next chapter ;-)

    Let me guess, Michael Wako Jacko will be next week's guest in a private chatroom...right?


    Mtlinfo

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