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    Unhappy Protecting your original work, thoughts? DMCA?
    Hi,

    I thought I would ask some experts about outright plagarizm or downlow theft of originial artwork. If it was done unintentionally (which is quite impossible), my view is you get a pass (not everybody agrees but heck) - C&D.

    With these two recent threads,
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=103000
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=103668

    I wanna know if any experts can chime in about:
    1) How does one go around protecting copyright text and images?
    (yeah, watermark would deter but are there other options)
    2) How does one not spend hours policing the net?
    3) If all fails, including a diplomatic notification (C&D), what are the options out there? Find a local lawyer? File a DMCA in your local court?
    4) Also, what can be done to get the content / images off that site?
    5) Will it cost more $$ to get this fixed than what it is worth or can one break even?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Ewe
    Hi,

    I thought I would ask some experts about outright plagarizm or downlow theft of originial artwork. If it was done unintentionally (which is quite impossible), my view is you get a pass (not everybody agrees but heck) - C&D.

    With these two recent threads,
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=103000
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=103668

    I wanna know if any experts can chime in about:
    1) How does one go around protecting copyright text and images?
    (yeah, watermark would deter but are there other options)
    2) How does one not spend hours policing the net?
    3) If all fails, including a diplomatic notification (C&D), what are the options out there? Find a local lawyer? File a DMCA in your local court?
    4) Also, what can be done to get the content / images off that site?
    5) Will it cost more $$ to get this fixed than what it is worth or can one break even?

    Thanks.
    4) If they are linking directly to your photos instead of uploading them to their own servers, you can always change out the photo to something really obnoxious. I see people do that all the time- it's hilarious. (Change the photos on your own site first, obviously, so that the obnoxious photos only show on their site not yours.)

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    1) (and this maybe partially answers 5) too) You can officially register a copyright through the copyright office at http://copyright.gov. I do, sometimes, with some of my work. I usually do it only with the stuff that I anticipate will be worth big $$. Registering a copyright is cheap. Defending a copyright can get really expensive. If you need to defend a copyright, you need the $$ to pay a good attorney. It's worth it to me for some things, not for other things.

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    If someone wants to steal your content bad enough there's not much you can do to prevent it. There are a few ways of making it harder. A bit of javascript code can prevent right clicks on the page for a context menu. Javascript can also prevent highlighting text to copy/paste. Another trick that I use on eBay listings is to display images as backgrounds in tables rather than in <img> tags. These can't be right clicked. There's no way, however, to prevent an image from being captured in a screen print. It's also easy to look at the page source and find image links. Text can simply be retyped too. Content can also be easily pulled from cached page files.

    Your only recourse is to take action after the fact. The only experience I've had with this is getting eBay listings pulled for copyright infractions, so perhaps others here have gone the C&D or DMCA route...



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    My work (articles) is ripped all the time and I can't do anything about it unless I want to spend money on an attorney to chase what, in essence, are petty thieves.

    The "deal" is that other sites can reprint my articles as long as they include a live link to my site with the author information. Most sites don't include the live link, most don't even mention my site, but thankfully I haven't seen anyone outright ripping my stuff by putting their name on it. If I did, I'd be all over it even though I have no idea what I'd do. ;-)
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    4) If they are linking directly to your photos instead of uploading them to their own servers, you can always change out the photo to something really obnoxious. I see people do that all the time- it's hilarious. (Change the photos on your own site first, obviously, so that the obnoxious photos only show on their site not yours.)
    Unfortunately, most photo rippers will copy-save your pictures. If they want to link it, I don't really have much of an issue as we are getting back links in the mean time.
    I have seen that done but that was back in the late 1990's.

    Registering a copyright is cheap. Defending a copyright can get really expensive. If you need to defend a copyright, you need the $$ to pay a good attorney. It's worth it to me for some things, not for other things.
    Yeah, unfortunately.. most of us don't have the deep pocket of microsoft.

    The "deal" is that other sites can reprint my articles as long as they include a live link to my site with the author information.
    I would be happy with that..

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    As a merchant with an affiliate program, disabling right-click is affiliate un-friendly. Watermarking images hinders sales. And hot-linking needs to be allowed to appropriate places. So that leaves us with policeing. Not fun, but necessary.

    You don't need to register with the copyright office to have your work copyright protected, as soon as you create it, it is protected. You can then make different licences for use or release it in the public domain, but it is already protected and you are able to issue C&D's or DMCA a violator.

    I have contacted various ISP's through the years and followed their reporting procedures and had sites shut down for having my photos on them without permission. Usually, they have been on sites where a simple email to them has sufficed. Many we of the clueless variety "it's on the web, I thought I could use it" or even better, like the recent thread "I had a person that did the content on my site and they told me they had gotten permission" (search the archives here to find the bruhaha about that one!).
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    A DMCA complaint is not that hard to do, information is online. I have used it in the past and it is free. Be sure to file a copy with Google, they will remove the site from listings. Whois will tell you who is hosting the site, and give the address information for the host. Usually contacting the offender is enough but some are unreachable. You do not need to have an officially registered copyright to file a DMCA complaint; a copyright notice on your site is sufficient. Your site should be 'officially' registered with your name/business name, not anonymously registered.

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