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    The slot machine that IS paid! Billy Kay's Avatar
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    Friggin Las Vegas
    There's been a trend to monetize the pools in Vegas.

    They charge admission to swim

    Cabanas that used to be $25 are either not available to the public (for hi-rollers only) or go for 5 grand

    Just got this offer from MGM

    http://www.mgmgrand.com/offers/2008/...001/index.html

    Read 1/2 way down...

    It now costs money for a chaise lounge

    ($100 = 2 chaise lounges and pina coladas)

    aargh

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    I'll take the one in the Yellow to go with my second chaise lounge...........
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    I thought everything in Vegas was monetized already?
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    is it just me or are those prices reasonable?

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    Isn't it just the way of the world? Try finding a place to park to get to a beach on Cape Cod. Costs hundreds of $$$ to get a beach sticker for a week. Even then the parking lot fills up so it's no guarantee. (I'm lucky I can walk to the beach)

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    What's an "Ultra Pool"?

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    The slot machine that IS paid! Billy Kay's Avatar
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    Ultra... MGM specific...

    they have 5 pools. one was no kids. they followed the monetize the ppool trend and made it a nite club... for the day use

    even made a separate entrace by rear parking lot (cover charge of course). charge $6000 for a cabanna, $1800 for a bottle of bacardi, the cocktial waitresses are actually real models

    ultra... in general for vegas...

    an excuse to overcharge

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    Yikes!

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    Thanks Billy for the info - I'm heading to vegas in august and will be sure to ask hotels their pool policy before booking.

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    Don't they make enough money without nickel and diming people? Maybe they think that if the customer isn't spending money on the gaming floor they should be spending on something, or everything, else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    is it just me or are those prices reasonable?
    the price didn't blow me away either. ...but 5 grand for a cabana would make me gasp.

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    2 things to learn from this thread:

    #1 A LOT of people in America are making a TON of money..

    #2 If you're not one of those people, you have only yourself to blame..

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    The slot machine that IS paid! Billy Kay's Avatar
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    Loxly and I just got back from a road trip to Denver to seen Jen, Jeaninne and Aunesty... and we stayed at a different hotel every day, and I noticed a lot of things hotels do differently that I've lived here so long I wasn't used to

    1. They think of the pool as an amenity, not additional income. Even the "normal" pools in Vegas like the Luxor... two bottled waters at the pool is eight bucks... 10 including tip. A day at the pool drinking just water gets expensive.

    2. They don't pre-authorize my credit card for $400 a night (times 5 nights) tying up my funds for 10 business days

    3. Even the cheapest hotel gave us a free continental breakfast. $300 a night in Vegas and they can't afford a free danish? LOLOL

    4. Every hotel had free wi-fi. My town charges $14.95 a day for access to the internet

    On the brite side...

    The Palm has "Ditch Fridays". Every friday the pool becomes a club with a cover charge. And they attract the surgically enhanced LA women... eye candy... who wonder around the casino all day long in "just barely there" bikinis

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    Don't you monetize everything you can in your business? Why shouldn't Vegas? It's the way of our world these days...It's either the rich or the fools that pay their prices.

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    Billy? Why would you need any other eye candy when you have Loxly by your side in, what I am sure was a very flirtatious string bikini?

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    If I'm swimming in Vegas, it's because I've already lost everything I own in the casinos. Now I gotta stay in my room?!
    Following everyone else is a GREAT way to become average.

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    Nobody likes to see a loser swimming.

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    Billy, I completely agree. But it's definitely not just Vegas.

    At every one of our conferences, I feel like I get nickled and dimed for everything that should be considered an amenity. Between that and overpriced everything, it's highway robbery.

    WiFi for 3 days, $33,000? Even buying the T1's and routers myself and getting them installed wouldn't cost that much.

    Red Bull - $7.00 a can. Water - $6.00 a bottle.

    Shawn and I got a laugh the other day about the Seaport. It's the first hotel that we've used where wi-fi is complimentary. We were ecstatic. Then we just got a note saying that my chair rentals in our meeting rooms, general session and dining areas would be 2.50 per chair per day ($30k) and my carpet rental in the hall would be $23K. So much for savings.....

    Chair Rentals????

    Aside from conferences, just staying in hotels has really changed for the worse. Unlike you, I can't remember the last time I stayed in a hotel that provided complimentary wi-fi. Every place I go, it seems like it's 8.95-14.95 per day. That's why I decided to go to mobile broadband.

    Will hotel accomodations ever be accomodating again? I seriously doubt it.

    I'm not sure what's worse these days -- hotels or banks.
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    LOLOL

    if I can't convince you people that paying 100 bucks for a chaise lounge is ridiculous....

    then would it be ok if I set your commissions to zero for the summer season?

    Oh wait... that's been done too

    LOL - just kiddin

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    I agree with Billy. Almost everything is getting outrageously expensive in Vegas. You can probably buy the chaise lounges for the price of the rental.

    Their new light rail system costs $5 per person each time you get on it. Although it can be convenient if you want to go from the southern end of the strip (where light rail used to be free) to the Hilton Conventions Center, the high cost for a short trip takes the pleasure out of it.

    The hotels have to be suffering a bit. I'm getting offers from some major hotels for $30 per night on weekdays.

    The costs got so outrageous during the former Comdex show that it killed the largest trade show in the world. The last couple times that I attended, hotel rooms for crappy hotels started at $400 per night during the show. Some of the more popular buffet meals went to $59.95 per person, which is insane.
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    I think we need a fundraiser for Billy's chaise lounge.

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    A wet T-shirt contest will be a fundraiser I think he would attend....

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    The slot machine that IS paid! Billy Kay's Avatar
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    LOL Missy

    Shawn once told me about the odd costs. You need 3 union guys to hang a banner at scale - lolol

    and Brian once told me that to get the "convention rates" for think tank attendees he had to guarantee something like $100,000 in food, (for only 3 dozen people), so every 5 minutes some new extravagant food service was being delivered.

    and Andy once told me how much he had to guarantee for just coffee for his ARC sessions. Yep! It would be cheaper to fly to Columbia for a coffee!

    LOLOL

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    billyschaiselounge.com is available, we could start up one of those paypal donation sites for him, maybe it would go viral on him, he could be the Chaise Lounge King.
    Following everyone else is a GREAT way to become average.

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    I'm wondering if they're seeing a decline in tourists w/ the rising costs of gas and air travel, so they have to make up the $$ from high rollers who aren't affected by those things...
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