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    Set aside the get rich quick stuff how much .$$$$.......
    Okay so I have been looking into doing the affiliate marketing thing for about a month now. I still don't completely understand how to create a website that's the hardest part for me right now.

    I would like to know the truth though on how much your affiliate website makes. I don't wanna hear about how you made 30,000 over night unless you did but I doubt it. I just wanna know is this something that if I really take the time, I can do for a living. This mostly appeals because I'm a comedian and so it's hard to have a job that I can't have flexible hours with.

    Anyways I'm looking to make enough to pay my bills while I'm following my dreams in comedy. Can you really live off of affiliate marketing?

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    Can you really live off of affiliate marketing?
    Yes but it's going to take you a while. Trial and error, perseverance, testing, tweaking, re-testing, etc. Just like any business my friend, it's going to take time to build it.

    And if building the website is the hardest part for you then... Building the site is probably one of the easiest parts of the business. Generating the traffic that will convert sales is the real challenge.

    Sorry to disappoint. But I do wish you luck in achieving your goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattcramer
    Can you really live off of affiliate marketing?
    That's strictly up to you. I'd start here. It's called the magic bullet thread. The rest is up to you.

    If someone with less than 10 posts comes along and drops a link to a site to sell you (us) something that will ensure you can, I'd say the answer is no, to both of you.

    If that doesn't happen, then welcome to ABW and you've come to the right place to learn how to do it right.


    <edit to add> Got an idea. Make a tape of your routine, post it on youtube, post the link here. The members will tell you if you have a better chance at affiliate marketing or at comedy.

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    I've read a lot of things on the internet about this which is why I decided to ask someone. Most sites promise you a whopping amount of money, but I've always gone by if it sounds too good to be true it pry is. Basically I am moving to NYC in 3 1/2 months and I would love to make this my business that provides for me. Is that reasonable or is that gonna take quite a bit longer? also I have heard about establishing a business as a Nevada LLC is this wise? because I've also read that the IRS will throw a fit and in some cases tried to take peoples houses, but they didn't say why. what did you guys do when you started your businesses?

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    mattcramer, affiliates are not going to tell you how much they make. But, if you see them here everyday reading and contributing, its a good sign they are making a living at it.

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    i think for 99% of people there are no shortcuts, and no "get rich quick" solutions.

    not just in affiliate marketing, but in all business.

    nothing can replace good old hard work and determination.
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    An approximate rule of thumb for a site that provides information like "How To" guides, free XYZ, etc.:
    Number of Unique visitors per day = Revenue Per Month
    So if you get 60 visitors per day, you can make about 60 dollars per month. This applies to content-based sites that are monetized with related product links and perhaps contextual advertising. And getting traffic and ranking for these types of sites is getting tougher and tougher.

    For sales-orientated sites, I find that making $0.20 per targeted visitor is very common. So if you had 100 targeted visitors per day, you could make perhaps $600/month. This is a ball-park figure of course. Some do better and some do worse. And getting this type of targeted traffic via Search Engine Results Pages (SERPS) can be tough since many are competing for these results, including large corporate sites with full-time webmasters and hired search specialists. If you go the PPC route, you will find that bids of $0.20 will often get you no traffic. If you bid more, you are then in the red. The solution is to offer a site that can bring visitors back for repeat sales via PPC and/or get visitor to tell others about your site (not easy!).
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    Can you become a successful full time comedian and make a lot of money at it if you apply a part time effort? The things that make for success in affiliate marketing are really no different than any other career Matt. The more time you commit to learning the trade and perfecting your material, the more you enhance the possibility of success at what you do. Just food for thought...
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    yes, you can live off of affiliate marketing, but you can also live off of many other jobs. It all depends on how much effort you put into it and your cost of living.
    It would make a very nice second income.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattcramer
    Anyways I'm looking to make enough to pay my bills while I'm following my dreams in comedy. Can you really live off of affiliate marketing?

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    Hello. I am no professional or anything, I was basically in the same boat as you are now. I started my thing about 2yrs ago and have just started to see real good profits. I used to be happy to make $10 a day, but now I'm averaging $200 a day for the summer. Advertising is key. I recommend beginning with Commission Junction and CPAStorm. I have made the most money from these companies. If you really try and don't give up, you will prove profitable after a while. It took me 2yrs to really get a swing of things. Now I've set up my grandfather and a few other friends who are making money! Its such a nice business. I rarely use this form, but I hope you find this helpful.

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    Making a website used to be my biggest challenge. Not anymore. There are so many web builder programs out there that this has become the easiest part. If you want to start a blog, use something like blogger. If you want to start a community site or a social network, use something like Ning. My lack of technical skills is no longer a problem because of these services.

    Now that I have good looking sites with full functionality, it doesn't mean everything is easy now. The hard part is getting quality traffic to your sites and getting people to sign-up, participate, and return to your sites. This is the biggest challenge of affiliate marketing. It takes time and has a huge learning curve, but it is possible.

    Create sites around something you are interested in becasue you will need to spend a lot of time writing content and participating in discussions as you build your sites and traffic.

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    Like some of these guys said, it's all about drawing traffic to your website. Email me and I can give you some tips and tricks on how to do it. brandonb44@yahoo.com

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    I wouldn't contact brandonb44 if I were you. He just rode in on a pumpkin cart *and* he wants to sell you some manure.

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    Sounds like a website about comedy would work well with your goals.

    Do both.

    set up a Blog for you to express yourself, your dreams, your routines, ad jokes of the day (that you wrote), comment on other comedians, comedian shows.

    Once you have an audience online (that you bring with you through advertising your site at your shows) then add products related to comedy.

    Using video would be key for your/this niche, because stand-up comedy really is a visual & audio experience.

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    Okay, here's the truth.

    If you build a website to make money by selling other people's products via an affiliate commission, you will never make enough to pay the bills unless you cheat. There are thousands trying the same thing everyday and this creates market pressures that spread it thin. This is called the "low hanging fruit" even lower hanging fruit would be buying PPC and linking it directly to your affiliate link so you don't even need a website.

    Now, if you build a website that contains content and/or a point of view that can not be found elsewhere on the internet AND you keep it updated and clean for a year or so, you will find that you have a site that has steady traffic everyday.

    NOW YOU ATTEMPT TO MONETIZE YOUR TRAFFIC.

    This is what most legitimate merchants want their affiliates to do because this makes everyone a winner. You test different ads and find what works best to MONETIZE YOUR TRAFFIC.

    Otherwise, you'll be prey for gurus and always chasing the next big thing because everything you try to make money will tease you with a little and then dry up.

    People who chase the low hanging fruit for a long time often get 'sour grapes', try their hand at affiliate managing and complain on forums.
    LOL! I couldn't help myself.

    So first you have to get the steady traffic and then YOU MONETIZE THE TRAFFIC.

    Here are some real numbers. I averaged several dozen that I know for a fact from the webmasters club (we share split testing data very profitably) that I belong to. For 10,000 uniques per day monthly gross income averages $2500 after removing the highest ($15,000) and the lowest ($300). That is an average of $8.35 for every 1000 people who come to visit the site.

    Also, we all make more money selling ads and links on our sites than we do on any of our affiliate links. Second place for most of us goes to Adsense. Affiliate links come in third.

    So the answer is, no you will not be paying your bills with it in the near future. Perserverence and a year or two and you will easily be able to support your career.

    Hope this helps.

    BTW did I mention that first you have to get the steady traffic and then YOU MONETIZE THE TRAFFIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattcramer
    Okay so I have been looking into doing the affiliate marketing thing for about a month now. I still don't completely understand how to create a website that's the hardest part for me right now.

    I would like to know the truth though on how much your affiliate website makes. I don't wanna hear about how you made 30,000 over night unless you did but I doubt it. I just wanna know is this something that if I really take the time, I can do for a living. This mostly appeals because I'm a comedian and so it's hard to have a job that I can't have flexible hours with.

    Anyways I'm looking to make enough to pay my bills while I'm following my dreams in comedy. Can you really live off of affiliate marketing?

    Matt

    Yes you can in fact make a good living here. In fact many have kids house payments really nice {And New } sports cars and so on.

    Now. 95% of all afilliates make less than 100 USD/ month.

    This is a game of inches my man. If you put every inch into it, you'll get nearlly every inch back out of it.

    Roger that Matt ?

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    >If you build a website to make money by selling other people's products via an affiliate commission, you will never make enough to pay the bills unless you cheat.

    Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. Not sure I can go along with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HazelB
    Okay, here's the truth.

    If you build a website to make money by selling other people's products via an affiliate commission, you will never make enough to pay the bills unless you cheat. There are thousands trying the same thing everyday and this creates market pressures that spread it thin. This is called the "low hanging fruit" even lower hanging fruit would be buying PPC and linking it directly to your affiliate link so you don't even need a website.
    Hazel, I hate to disagree with you but we make a nice living on exactly the kind of sites you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by visitourmall
    Hazel, I hate to disagree with you but we make a nice living on exactly the kind of sites you are talking about.
    I hear you and I really dig your groove. But I don't think your site is low hanging fruit or you would not link to it here unless you're trying to sell some low hanging fruit LOL!

    If your site was, then a person could easily copy it and be off making money to pay the bills too. Your's seems a bit more complex than that. People chasing the low hanging fruit will almost never reveal their sites for fear that it may be copied by others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HazelB
    Okay, here's the truth.

    If you build a website to make money by selling other people's products via an affiliate commission, you will never make enough to pay the bills unless you cheat.
    This is not the affiliate to be taking advice from. Since no one else will address the elephant in the room I will.

    See forum.abestweb.com/showpost.php?p=854333&postcount=25.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HazelB
    Okay, here's the truth.

    If you build a website to make money by selling other people's products via an affiliate commission, you will never make enough to pay the bills unless you cheat.
    That may be the truth FOR YOU, but it is not the truth for me. Many of us don't cheat nor do we have hidden agendas.

    (that second comment is in response to an accusation in another thread)

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    Wow Boomers - I thought she was joking.

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    I thought she was joking too.... now I'm confused.

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    I second that "wow" Aunt Lily, I too thought she was just joking in the other thread, but after what she said in this one, I know she wasn't kidding.

    HazelB, I know many people including myself who work very hard at what we do, and we don't cheat in any way.

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    My chin kind of hit the keyboard with her confession over there. I just sat there reading it over and over. I thought it strange that no one commented. Then I went back and read a lot of her previous posts. They indicated some knowledge of gray/black hat methods that seemed more in depth to me than just casual understanding. At that point I decided she was serious...



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