Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    No Longer Banned!
    Join Date
    January 19th, 2008
    Location
    Wilmer, Texas 75172
    Posts
    939
    Cloaked Meta Tags???
    Hi

    I have been researching a few things, and I noticed that some guys tags are a huge vacant white space.

    Is there a way to cloak the tags ?? I thought of using white text but these guys must be using a script, say .css for example ?

    Steve
    Last edited by Steve Williams; August 1st, 2008 at 03:05 AM. Reason: Texas Spelling Spree....
    DreamLinux.net | Registered Linux User 453976 | PM me to view our sites. It's a Google thing.

  2. #2
    ABW Ambassador
    Join Date
    January 18th, 2005
    Location
    Nunya, Business
    Posts
    23,684
    Cloak meta tags? Why?

  3. #3
    ABW Ambassador Daniel M. Clark's Avatar
    Join Date
    January 7th, 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    2,082
    Define "meta tags", because I think that you're not using the term correctly. It sounds like you're talking about the tags that people add to their blog posts. You can use CSS to hide those, I guess... but why on earth would you want to? Meta tags are in the source code of your file - things like "keywords" and "description". You don't cloak those, or change their color (via CSS or any other method).
    Daniel M. Clark
    Tech Manager
    Greg Hoffman Consulting

  4. #4
    No Longer Banned!
    Join Date
    January 19th, 2008
    Location
    Wilmer, Texas 75172
    Posts
    939
    Quote Originally Posted by HecticDMC
    Define "meta tags", because I think that you're not using the term correctly. It sounds like you're talking about the tags that people add to their blog posts. You can use CSS to hide those, I guess... but why on earth would you want to? Meta tags are in the source code of your file - things like "keywords" and "description". You don't cloak those, or change their color (via CSS or any other method).

    Dan

    It is Like this:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <html dir="ltr" lang="en">
    <head>
    <title>Cloaking Meta Tags.... - ABestWeb Affiliate Marketing Forum</title>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
    <meta name="generator" content="vBulletin 3.0.5" />
    <meta name="keywords" content="affiliate network, affiliate marketing network, network marketing affiliate program, affiliate lead marketing mlm network, affiliate marketing mlm network, casino affiliate network, affiliate channel network program solution, dish network affiliate program, dish network affiliate, network affiliate program, affiliate network radio, affiliate free network program, affiliate interactive network, affiliate network software, affiliate fox network, Affiliate Programs, . Affiliate Program, . Affiliate Marketing, . Starting An Affiliate Program, . Affiliate Software, . Best Affiliate Program" />
    <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="INDEX, FOLLOW">

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    On a few of these sites {Different names/ addys/ owners etc.} this field was blank except perhaps the first three lines.

    It seems strange to me that there would be a huge 5"x10" blank white field on the screen just the <body> tag basically and below the <head> tag.

    At the same time, why in all of gods name would these outfits build it this way ? To me, w/o tags your dead. A possible exception is perhaps if you utilise strictly PPC. But still. Theres the nagging little index problem.

    To me, if I were going to use this method, I'd scramble the code in CS3. This way I alone can read it / unlock it. When you use this method, it scrambles the entire page. Not just specific tags.

    So back to, how. Then most importantly WHY?

    Fascinating subject.

    Steve :newb;
    DreamLinux.net | Registered Linux User 453976 | PM me to view our sites. It's a Google thing.

  5. #5
    ABW Ambassador
    Join Date
    January 18th, 2005
    Posts
    4,423
    Because they aren't?

  6. #6
    ABW Ambassador Daniel M. Clark's Avatar
    Join Date
    January 7th, 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    2,082
    So, what you're telling me is that the site you saw had no meta tags filled in. No "keywords", no "description"? That's not cloaking, that's stupidity - although, no, you're not dead without them. You can have a very successful site without meta tags. They help a lot, but they're not life-or-death.

    You can't cloak your source code. Either it's visible or it's missing. The source code needs to be readable by the browser, so if you're talking about scrambling your source, keep in mind that it can be de-scrambled by anyone. There is no security whatsoever in HTML source code once the code has been downloaded to the browser. If you want to "hide" anything, it has to be done server-side. Writing a page in PHP, for example, means you can do all sorts of things with your code that the end user (i.e. the browser) will never see. But the bottom line is that once it's in the browser, it's plain text source and it can be read by a human (either by plain sight or with tools).
    Daniel M. Clark
    Tech Manager
    Greg Hoffman Consulting

  7. #7
    ABW Ambassador Daniel M. Clark's Avatar
    Join Date
    January 7th, 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    2,082
    Also keep in mind that the search engines will only ever see source code that has been downloaded to the browser and they don't (as far as I know) ever execute javascript. If you use javascript to scramble the entire source code of your page, you might as well just send an email to Google saying "please remove me from your index and don't bother coming back".
    Daniel M. Clark
    Tech Manager
    Greg Hoffman Consulting

  8. #8
    Comfortably Numb John Powell's Avatar
    Join Date
    October 17th, 2005
    Location
    Bayou Country, LA
    Posts
    3,432
    It seems strange to me that there would be a huge 5"x10" blank white field on the screen just the <body> tag basically and below the <head> tag.
    To me you are just seeing "whitespace html" and is probably just sloppy code writing doing that.


  9. #9
    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    January 18th, 2005
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    21,609
    I've seen people do this to make it look like it's hidden (to a novice) - all you have to do is scroll to see it.
    Continued Success,

    Haiko
    The secret of success is constancy of purpose ~ Disraeli

  10. #10
    ABW Ambassador ladidah's Avatar
    Join Date
    October 15th, 2007
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    1,888
    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    I've seen people do this to make it look like it's hidden (to a novice) - all you have to do is scroll to see it.
    Yes, I was going to say that. You have to scroll wayyyyy down.

    Other times this is done using iframes but this is older sites since probably noone uses them anymore.

  11. #11
    Moderator
    Join Date
    April 6th, 2006
    Posts
    2,689
    Keep in mind if text is hidden using CSS, google will find it & the site may be penalized.

    If it's for accessibility reasons, I believe that's acceptable, but using an example, white text on a white background is treated as suspicious/grey area.

  12. Newsletter Signup

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Meta Tags
    By Incentials in forum Search Engine Optimization
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: January 20th, 2008, 12:02 PM
  2. Meta Tags
    By Apool in forum Search Engine Optimization
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: October 8th, 2003, 10:24 AM
  3. Meta Tags
    By RomanXIII in forum Search Engine Optimization
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: April 24th, 2002, 06:31 PM
  4. Meta Tags
    By cazzie in forum Search Engine Optimization
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: November 11th, 2001, 07:34 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •