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    Hello Internet Marketing Enthusiasts,

    You may be interested to know that a recent story printed on the Hot Jobs – Yahoo! Web site was an article about which careers could stand the test of time against the current poor economic conditions.

    “Staying Power: 5 Careers with Bright Futures” was printed Sunday and available on the Yahoo! home page. As the title suggests, 5 occupations were listed, and the one which caught my eye, was:
    Internet Marketer ($53,000) -- from Internet Marketing Specialist ($43,000) to Internet Marketing Life Coach -- $203,000

    Oddly however, the article indicated that the employer would seek the Internet Marketer out, as if to infer they would punch a clock at a 9-5 position. I thought that was strange.

    Also, what is an “Internet Marketing Life Coach?”

    I admit, the article was pretty vague and the fact that “Affiliate marketing” was not mentioned in the article was pretty disappointing.

    I thought perhaps that I would bring it to your attention just incase you want to give it a read:
    http://jobs.yahoo.com/career-article...ht_futures-493

    I did feel better after I read it, if only to think that I may have chosen the correct career path in life.




    Thanks,

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    Thanks for the heads up, I liked the article. (It made me feel even more recession proof than before too!)

    I'll take a guess that the "Internet Marketing Life Coaches" are the online gurus best known for promoting their "secrets" to a massive subscriber lists of newbies and through joint ventures with other marketers who have massive lists of newbies...

    WM

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    In other words.

    They scam web newbies.

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    Don't think they were talking about what we (for me, speaking as an independent affiliate) do so much -

    "Advertising, marketing, promotions, public relations, and sales manager jobs are highly coveted and will be sought. ... In particular, employers will seek those who have the computer skills to conduct advertising, marketing, promotions, public relations, and sales activities on the Internet."

    That's more talking about somebody a company would hire to do different things as an employee with a salary. Because affiliate marketing doesn't fit the:

    "Below are five career types that project strong growth -- and hence high job security "

    Since it's more a small business and it has about the same failure rates, in the 95% territory.

    So the above is more employee type stuff where affiliates are more business owner, in charge type of deal.

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    Wouldn't Internet Life Coaches include Tim Ferriss and his brethren? I get the sense those guys are RAKING it in. I wanna be him when I grow up.

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    I was trying to put it more delicately than that; but if I had to put it concisely...yes, that's what I was thinking. And it is only my opinion.

    But seriously, how many experienced affiliate marketers are willing to pay five figures or so for coaching?

    It would take two dozen of affiliate marketers paying ten grand apiece to sit at the feet of someone we an expert for them to make that kind of money "coaching."

    Are there twenty-four experienced internet marketers who would pay anybody ten grand for coaching? And if so, who would that person be? (Pick me! I'll teach you everything I know for that kind of money) But maybe I'm simply displaying my ignorance with this post because I foolishly don't know how valuable the right internet marketing coach would be...

    I do know that there are lots of people in our industry I respect and want to learn from...but thus far, not so badly that I'll pay them that much money for coaching!

    WM

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    I've actually met a couple of "Marketing Life Coaches" before... and - yes - they made a fortune. Whether or not they deserved the fortune they made is not a determination I'm prepared to make, BUT - the fact is, they did reach that point where people sought them out for their "coaching" skills.

    I'm not completely sure, based on my experience with them, of the difference between an "Internet Marketing Life Coach" and an "Internet Marketing Consultant" except for the fact that they seem to spend 1/2 of their time working on marketing objectives and tactics and 1/2 of their time working directly with the business owner on how to be a better business-person / person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust
    Since it's more a small business and it has about the same failure rates, in the 95% territory.

    So the above is more employee type stuff where affiliates are more business owner, in charge type of deal.
    Trust, I think you're right. That's a good clarification. Do you really figure 95% of the people who attempt affiliate marketing will fail? I knew about the failure rates for small businesses, but I somehow figured that wouldn't translate online...after all, investment capital is lower, and so is the overhead. Theoretically, it should increase the liklihood of succees. - Unless all that does is just open the doors for even more "not-so-good-businesspeople" to give it a try.

    I can't tell you how many people ask for my help to "get started working online." Sadly, the overwhelming majority of them don't even get as far as registering a domain! It's really disheartening to think that so few people end up being successful at it.

    Especially because I find this kind of work (affiliate marketing) enriching, fun, profitable and totally within my comfort zone. It's almost inconceivable to me that so few people are destined to make a living or even turn a profit at it.

    Any ideas on what really holds so many people back from being successful internet marketers? Is it laziness, greed, distractibility, lack of vision, or something else?

    -WM

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    "Do you really figure 95% of the people who attempt affiliate marketing will fail?"

    With that, I would say that's pretty accurate if your goal is to do affiliate marketing full time, for a living, have your own business with this.

    Depends on your goals.

    Some are happy just to cover their hosting. Some are happy with an extra $200 a month to go along with their job they have. When I first started, that's what I was thinking at first. So if I were looking at the amount of people that get into this, wanting to do this for a living, wanting to quit their job, I would say it's not going to happen for most and it's probably right up there in the 90's percentage wise. That's not to say they can't make a little money.

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    Working Mom..
    Pick me! I'll teach you everything I know for that kind of money
    Can I be your assistant..?

    I would never pay someone for Internet Marketing Life Coach services. A life coach is one thing - they help you define goals, and formulate strategies to help achieve those goals.

    The internet, however, is a big ol' space that everyone has access to.

    And Trust, spot on (as usual!)

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