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    My first post - two questions
    Hello, 1st time here - and preparing to take my first baby steps in the affiliate world.

    Question 1 - As an affiliate, once I am provided a link to a merchant, may I use it on another site other than the one approved by the merchant? In other words, merchant has approved "site A" for their link, and I would like to place a link on "Site B" (a clone of site A but in another language). Is there a chance I will be violating their policy if I do this? Will the merchant have any way in finding out from which site it's coming from, or does it track the affiliate code only?

    Question 2 - I need to find a platform to easily create content on the fly, I'm thinking Joomla might be the best answer, as opposed to hand-coding each page. The website will be a luxury-lifestyle website, with product and service reviews. Anyone have experience with Joomla?

    Thanks in advance for your help and patience - my newbieness is probably oozing from the previous questions but that's why I'm here.

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    Welcome hodgejr. Sorry, you're only allowed one question on your first post. JK!



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    Will the merchant have any way in finding out from which site it's coming from
    Any decent tracking network will find immediatly from where the click is coming. It can take more time if you hide the referer, but they will find the origin.
    Most networks allow you to use the same link on different sites, the problem will be on your side to track from where your sales are coming.
    Welcome and good luck.
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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    So in essence an affiliate network does not really care where the click is coming from? As long as it's converted to a sale, right?

    What if I work with a merchant who has their own in-house affiliate system, do they typically filter which sites are sending traffic?

    So much to learn!

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    Question 2 - I need to find a platform to easily create content on the fly, I'm thinking Joomla might be the best answer, as opposed to hand-coding each page. The website will be a luxury-lifestyle website, with product and service reviews. Anyone have experience with Joomla?
    In my personal current order of preference: Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal. There are other, but I work(ed) with these 3.

    As to your other question, merchants don't generally concern themselves with the source of links*... until they see a bad pattern. But as has been mentioned, the better you keep track of your own links, the more successful you will be. Tough to test what works and what doesn't if you can't tell the 2 apart.

    *Edit: There are noted exceptions to this. My advice would be to read the T&C's of each merchant you promote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hodgejr
    Thanks for the quick reply!
    So in essence an affiliate network does not really care where the click is coming from? As long as it's converted to a sale, right?
    What if I work with a merchant who has their own in-house affiliate system, do they typically filter which sites are sending traffic?
    So much to learn!
    Merchants care from where the clicks are coming. As long as your links are on an appropriate site, you're safe. If they can't see from where your clicks are coming, they will ask the network to investigate and it's never good.
    Regarding in-house tracking, be careful some tracking systems work only with a defined URL. It's one of the tasks of an AM to check which sites are sending traffic and the quality of the traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hodgejr
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    So in essence an affiliate network does not really care where the click is coming from? As long as it's converted to a sale, right?
    I wouldn't agree with this. If any site you use is acceptable to the merchant you should be ok. On the other hand, if you're using a site that the merchant doesn't like you're asking for trouble.

    If your listed site is about luxury items, you're approved and place links on a hate or porn site you'll likely get booted. Each program is different so read the terms before you apply.
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    Thank so much for the quality advice. I feel like I'll be here for the long run!

    I've been using "A" and "B" samples and analogies, let me cut to the chase of what I'd like to do and perhaps someone with the right background can help steer me the right way.

    I'd like to set up an affiliate site in another country, in another language. However, most (if not all) of the merchants will be located in the US. If the affiliate is a foreign language, how will the merchant approve the content? Hence the reason I was thinking of creating a duplicate site in English, so the merchants could review the site, and then place the links in the main website which will be in another language. I do not plan to direct traffic to the duplicate english-language site, as my target group is in another country altogether.

    What is the best approach for this?

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    Can't help you there, personally. I struggle enough with English, and it was my major....
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    Thanks for clarifying your questions.
    I'm not too crazy about creating a duplicate site in English.
    Think of your visitors, first, if they buy from a US site it means they are speaking some English and the merchant ships in their country. Think that the cart and purchase process will be in English for them.
    Why don't you put your content in two languages (English + other) on the same page with the product you want to sell. At least the merchant will understand what you're doing.
    Just my 2 cents. Others may have a better idea.

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    Thanks for your input Zeus. Yes I'm going for the high-end market, and in any given country most within that segment will speak basic english. However, I want the site to be styled as a magazine, with product and service reviews written by a fellow countryman and not as a foreigner (to them). This way I will be able to better connect with the audience - similar to a blog. I will provide the product descriptions as best as possible in the native language in addition to user-reviews, then link directly to the merchant action page.

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    You should make sure you read each merchants agreement, because there are many merchants that will only accept sites written in English only.

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    hodgejr - However, I want the site to be styled as a magazine,
    I had the opportunity to travel all my life around the world staying in luxury hotels and resorts. Most of the time I had in my room luxury magazines written in English and a foreign language. To have two languages on the same page is not a problem. Either one or the other was in italic. Look at the foreign Airlines magazines, too.
    It should work for your blog. If the country is not known for fraud or spam, it should be accepted by the merchant if they ship there.

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    In my experience most merchants don't fuss too much about using a link for Site A on Site B - in the end a sale is a sale, and in your case where it's just a language difference, I don't think it'd be a problem but I agree with Mr. Sal in that you should read the agreements carefully just to be sure.

    Although, if Site A is approved and Site B isn't just a clone and involves questionable content (gambling, matchmaking, sexual content, etc) you may want to at least run it past the affiliate manager of the program for a thumbs up. Some brands are VERY picky about what kind of content their ads run next to, so they may not want to be associated with Site B if it's too far outside their comfort zone.

    In terms of content, another option would be using WordPress to power a website, using the Static home page option and creating pages and posts to sort out your content. I've seen some good looking sites powered by WordPress that look like your traditional coded website (could only tell by the WordPress notations in footers and other small details). If you're already familiar with the self-hosted WordPress format, that might be another viable option to look into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrishaLyn
    In terms of content, another option would be using WordPress to power a website, using the Static home page option and creating pages and posts to sort out your content. I've seen some good looking sites powered by WordPress that look like your traditional coded website (could only tell by the WordPress notations in footers and other small details). If you're already familiar with the self-hosted WordPress format, that might be another viable option to look into.
    I had never heard of Wordpress being used in an application beyond blogs, I will definitely look into it. Joomla seems to be very capable but the learning curve is high, I'm so sure I'll be able to swing it in the timeframe I've set for this site. Thanks for the tip!

    In regards to creating two "parallel" sites - I'm starting to like the idea of having both languages on the same site, and making the local language the default language. Should a merchant review the site, they will simply click the English option. Now to figure out a way to make it happen.

    Thanks again for your help!

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    I agree with the others that wordpress would be a good framework for you.

    I've not used this plug-in and only did a quick search and cursory read of the description. It appears this will help you have a multilingual blog. http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/qtranslate/ again, I don't know if this is what you want, but it gives you a place to start.
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