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    Tobacco use remains the single most preventable cause of death in the United States. More than 400,000 Americans die each year from tobacco-related disease.

    Someone dies from smoking every 72 seconds.

    Smoking causes more deaths than alcohol, AIDS, illegal drugs, car crashes, fires, murders, and suicides combined.

    source: http://www.quit-smoking.net/smokingstatistics.html


    If you promote cigarettes you are just as guilty of killing as if you had put a gun to peoples heads and pulled the trigger. Many of you know that you need to target new, young smokers because the older ones are dying of lung cancer. I know that there is a market for it but 70% of smokers want to quit! Why not promote a quit-smoking merchant instead?

    If you want to stop, this works>> I quit smoking a few months back due after reading a book called allen carrs easy way to stop smoking. It is available from amazon.com and has a 90% success rate. Plenty of copies are available even though it says out of stock.

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    Congratulations. How long and how much did you smoke? How bad did you want to quit?
    I didn't smoke for a week in the hospital and for the first week when I got home. After 6 weeks I was up to 10 a day. Now back to a pack.
    Takes 20 years for your body to get back to that of a non smoker, how depressing. Wish I had a true desire to quit.

    I don't promote tobacco on the web but if someone wants to buy it they will have no trouble finding a place. Nothing wrong with selling it and promoting stop smoking aids along with it.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Nothing wrong with selling it <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    My friend, yes there is, it's as immoral as selling chemical weapons. What is the difference?

    It is not hard to quit. There is a lot of propaganda and fear that prevents people from quiting. People say "giving them up" like they are sacrificing something. You don't sacrifice cigarettes you escape them.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Takes 20 years for your body to get back to that of a non smoker, how depressing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Another lie encouraged by people who have something to gain from the fear smokers have. Don't listen to them. Your body heals incredibly quickly. I smoked 30 a day for 23 yrs and was a confirmed smoker (someone who is overly defensive about smoking). I quit 3 months ago and I'm as fit as a fiddle again. Maybe 20 months not 20 yrs.

    Some of you surprise me, I know you would not promote porn yet promote something that kills more people than aids. Please do not take pride in your cancer commissions.

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    Smoking takes its toll on non-smokers, as well. Health insurance premiums are higher for all of us, due to the cost of treating smoking-related diseases. The insurance companies may charge smaller premiums for non-smokers, but it's all figured into the overall cost everyone pays.

    With everything we know today about smoking and what it does to the human body, I can't believe anyone still smokes! Everytime I see someone light up, I think to myself, "What an idiot...they're killing themselves."

    Even alcohol, used in moderation, is said by some to offer some health benefits. It certainly isn't a 100% killer, like tobacco. You'd never hear a doctor tell someone that two cigarettes a day won't hurt anything.

    I know there are people who smoked their whole lives, lived to be 102, and never had a sick day, but they are the minority.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> smoked their whole lives, lived to be 102, and never had a sick day <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If they hadn't smoked they would probably lived to be 120.

    I am not an anti-smoker. If anyone here has been thinking of quitting, read the book. The author even encourages smoking until you've finished the book. You will never belive how easy it is to quit!! Any of the ex-smokers on this board will tell you how quickly your body heals. Say goodbye to chest pain, apathy and wheezing. If you can sleep at night without a cigarette you can live your life without them. I am not affiliated in anyway with amazon or the book, I'm just telling you what works.

    The most important thing is to not promote them. If you had an alarm in your home that was set up to go off the first time someone got cancer due to buying through your link you would not be able to sleep at night. How would you feel when it actually did go off?

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    I agree with you 100% Tyler. My father died as a result of smoking when I was 6 years old . That was in the mid-1950's. He grew up in the early part of the century when tobacco companies were not only denouncing claims from early researchers that smoking caused lung cancer but promoted cigarettes as being healthful. Research linking smoking to cancer was then was being dismissed in expensive ad campaigns and by powerful lobbies much as global warming research is dismissed by industries and dependent politicians today.

    Promoting stop-smoking aids will not atone for selling a product proven to addict and kill. I'm not going to come right out here and state that anyone who sells tobacco is guilty of murder, but it is a thought that they should wrestle with in their conscience.

    Needless to say, tobacco doesn't sell on my sites.

    Wayne

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Please do not take pride in your cancer commissions.

    My friend, yes there is, it's as immoral as selling chemical weapons. What is the difference?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Much as I hate to say it, if the government thinks it is so OK to make money on cigs, people promoting it on their web site is almost the same choice as the choice is if we smoke or not. You do or you don't.

    I smoked for 25 years, a pack a day for many of them.
    In all honesty when the doctor gave me the dreaded news 3 years ago, my smoking had NOTHING to do with what I got.
    If I had known some other type of exposure and not the tobacco would do me in I would have smoked more.

    If you feel so strong about having people stop smoking go find someplace it will make a difference.
    An affiliate marketing forum is not the place to make such a differnce!!!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by walleye warrior:
    If you feel so strong about having people stop smoking go find someplace it will make a difference.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Agreed!

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>An affiliate marketing forum is not the place to make such a differnce!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That is, unless the person's impetus is to besmirch BigDaddySmokes

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    Thanks for providing a couple of examples of confirmed smokers. Been there done that. The arguments of confirmed smokers are not valid, see how they twist things?

    I am not an anti-smoker. Smoke away. My message is to encourage people to question the morality of promoting the evil weed taking cancer commissions. I found someplace it will make a difference, right here.

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    yeah, ok

    Why not picket infront of your local store instead of here? Get Real!

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