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    Is cookie stuffing really that big of a problem?
    Sorry - I wasn't sure where to put this topic.

    I've been reading about cookie stuffing and getting all paranoid that my commissions are going to some undeserving lowlife. But then I started to wonder - is this really that big of a problem? I mean, by default IE blocks 3rd party cookies.

    IE is 90% of the browsers out there and the other 10% (the top 10% I'll call them ) are surely smart enough to block these as well. A person would have to go into IE Tools and explicity change the setting to allow these kinds of cookies. How many people are really doing that? Am I missing a larger problem? I do understand the problem with the toolbars but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people that play games with iframes and <img> tags.

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    That was one of the first articles I read.

    There are a lot of people trying to stuff cookies, but do you think many of those attempts are successful?

    I mean, you'd either have to resort to social engineering to get people to drop their browser security settings or troll for browsers that have security flaws.

    Otherwise, the people trying to stuff cookies have to be hoping that users are going to 1.) Notice the little eyeball icon in the status bar with the red line through it, 2.) Click that icon, 3.) Notice all the blocked 3rd party cookies and finally 4.) Tell themselves "Gee, I should unblock all these mysterious cookies"

    Seems more likely that the avg user, if they do notice the little eyeball icon, is going to say "Hey, if IE thinks these should be blocked, they probably should be."

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    why are you so interested in this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    why are you so interested in this?
    (Uh oh! They're on to me!)

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    "IE is 90% of the browsers out there and the other 10% (the top 10% I'll call them ) are surely smart enough to block these as well."

    If that's the case, how do any of our cookies get set, via a regular click.

    Ah nevermind - "Using these definitions, cookies set by a tracking system are not considered third-party cookies provided the link is clicked directly and is the primary link in the browser"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    why are you so interested in this?

    Actually, I thought it was an interesting question for a point of discussion.

    I don't have a good grasp or understanding of the topic.
    I'm not sure how to protect one's site.
    What should one do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhia7
    Actually, I thought it was an interesting question for a point of discussion.

    I don't have a good grasp or understanding of the topic.
    I'm not sure how to protect one's site.
    What should one do?
    You are correct, it is a very interesting and important issue.

    I just thought that the person asking seemed a bit suspicious in the way they were asking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdunklau
    There are a lot of people trying to stuff cookies, but do you think many of those attempts are successful?
    It would serve them right if they weren't
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    Michael Coley published a very educational thread in the Big 4 Affiliate Managers only section. It is a restricted part of this site, so I would ask if a moderator reads this, to possibly allow the posting of that thread here?
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    Stuffed cookies aren't third-party cookies, so the IE limitations don't apply. Even if they did, it would still overwrite legitimate cookies. Yes, it's a very serious problem.

    The post in the AM forum needs to stay there. There's a lot of information in it to help affiliate managers identify and catch cookie stuffers. That information should not be made public fo the cookie stuffers to figure out how they're being caught.
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