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    Didn't we win it or something?

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> American soldiers have begun wrapping entire villages in barbed wire.....They have begun imprisoning the relatives of suspected guerrillas, in hopes of pressing the insurgents to turn themselves in.......Iraqi civilians line up to go in and out, filing through an American-guarded checkpoint, each carrying an identification card printed in English only.........."The only thing they understand is force — force, pride and saving face."........."This fence is here for your protection," reads the sign posted in front of the barbed-wire fence. "Do not approach or try to cross, or you will be shot."........."With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects, I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them," Colonel Sassaman said. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Dang, don't you make you proud that we freed all those people

    Complete article here.

    Tough New Tactics by U.S. Tighten Grip on Iraq Towns

    And, yes, Mike and Charlie, I know you see this as a GOOD thing. We're just unappreciated, I suppose.

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    Dang!

    I wish you wouldn't post these things, Ssanf.

    Look at the face of the kid standing in the rubble of his former home.

    That's tomorrow's terrorist.

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    WARNING!! Content of this thread is likely to be political!!! If that isn't your thing, well, there is lots of other interesting stuff on ABW that isn't.

    It no doubt is. Should we get him now and save ourselves the trouble later? (I don't mean that, of course.)

    So, if we keep going this way will there be any difference between us and Sadam? If we act like him, does that mean he was right?

    We could have saved a lot of money by staying home. Oh, I forgot. This is the war that is going to pay for itself, isn't it?

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    [This message was edited by SSanf on December 06, 2003 at 10:47 PM.]

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    Hang on, I'll just go and fetch my asbestos suit from the shed...

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    Really, there isn't a whole lot to discuss. I am sure no one wanted us to turn around and start acting like this.

    Such a mess. So, poorly planned and ill advised. A fast bloodless victory from a "clean" war that would pay for itself...a cheering welcome from a greatful population..... I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee, Clouds in my coffee, and....

    The only real issue is what do we do now? And, I think that is what we should start considering. I don't think any of our so called leaders have a clue what to do. So, maybe we should start thinking what we want the end goal to be and how to get out of this mess with as little financial loss and as much dignity as we can still muster.

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    [This message was edited by SSanf on December 06, 2003 at 11:45 PM.]

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    I felt good that Haiko closed down the "current events" forum.

    Now I go to the cafe and find it springing up again. HINT HINT

    "Bueller...? Bueller...?"

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    It was clearly stated what the thread is about. You weren't tricked into reading this thread and you aren't so dumb that you didn't know what you would find.

    If you are not interested and don't like the subject why did you open the thread and post here? HINT HINT

    You have a clear choice. Don't try to take away the choice of those who may be interested.

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    Come on folks everyone for 1500 years has known this to be truth ...expecially the Arabs.

    "The only thing they understand is force — force, pride and saving face."

    They ONLY respect a superior enemy who has a boot on their neck and gun to their heads. This goes for their Muslim rulers attitudes or opposing Infidel forces right back to Roman Empire times. The Western World has outgrown their tribal allegences and the Arab/Muslim world has not. Therefore they is no unity or loyality to an Arab nation. We are Americans, British, Canadian or German ...not so in the tribal 3rd world countries.

    The only thing that unites Islam is hatred. Hatred so deep they will even condone murdering thousands of fellow Muslims by their Jehadis if just one Jew -Christain or American gets whacked in the process.

    The world would just leave all the Islamic tribal warriors alone if they'd let us. Problem is over the last 20-30 years Islam has been breeding unfed -unsheltered -un-employed -un-educated masses like rabbits. They therefore, through distorting Islamic teachings, justify the overthrow and murdering of their neighbor's countries to steal their lands and ethnic cleanse those regions to pure Islamic states.

    Islam declared war on the US and the West long before 9/11. Every major bloodbath in the last 40 years had Islam as the root cause. It is the rule, not the exception, for everyone in the world to automatically assume some Muslims are at the heart of every news story where hundreds of innocents get maimed or killed in some bomb balst. Sadly this group includes all Muslims who never once flinch or deny that fellow Muslims did the killings ...hell they cheer it as another Islamic victory even if the death toll is most Muslim!

    The world sits back in shock & Awe and say WTF is up with that! So GWB and the silent majority will kick Islam, one country, at a time into the 21st century. The simple victory over all mustered Muslim forces in Afganistan then Iraq has made them lose face and damaged their collective pride. Now shoving or forcing them to swallow the right for Israel to exist will further difuse their willingness to fight like men on the field of battle.

    Every bomb going off from Russia to Kishmir or Baghdad is a real blow to their pride as another body count gets chocked up to Muslim terrorists. GWB is beating down their leaders and turning Muslim on Muslim murder into a weapon to further destroy their pride and world repute.

    When they collectively realize the only way they can regain their pride, honor and face saving cultural upbringing is too turn on their own 1% of sh*t stirring murdering jehadis and hang some clerics will the force they respect be lifted. That's all the world asks for forgiving 9/11. The Muslims whack their terrorists and bury that death worshiping idiology from their teachings.

    Joy to the World and peace on earth when the Muslims string up Saddam and Bin Laden. And the liberal socialist peace-nics think that GWB's job ....

    The world has never experience such joy over an event since Musolinni & Mistress were hanged and shot at the hands of Italians, Hitler was forced to commit suicide and the Atom Bomb was dropped on Japan. I'll add in we all were happy including the Communists when the Berlin wall was torn down by East Germans.

    Mike & Charlie ...

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    [This message was edited by EcomCity.com on December 07, 2003 at 03:37 AM.]

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    SHUT IT, PARROT!

    ABW Rule:
    "Posts containing racist, sexual- or religious-, personal-, etc offending content will be removed and will get you banned immediately."

    Mike said:

    "The only thing that unites Islam is hatred"

    "Problem is over the last 20-30 years Islam has been breeding unfed -unsheltered -un-employed -un-educated masses like rabbits"

    "Islam declared war on the US and the West long before 9/11."

    "So GWB and the silent majority will kick Islam, one country, at a time into the 21st century."

    I DEMAND THAT ECOMCITY.COM BE BANNED, NOT ALLOWED UNTIL HE LEARNS THE ABW RULES OR UNTIL APOLOGIZES.

    IT IS CLEAR THAT HE DOESN'T NOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT BUT HE SURE IS OFFENDING ME.

    DELETING THE THREAD/HIS POST IS NOT A SOLUTION. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME HE IS DOING THIS.

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    Look out your window and tell those murdered in the Trade Center Towers on 9/11 that Americans should forget it ever happened. We are at WAR in case you forgot. I have a duaghter in Law who ashes are on that hollowed ground.

    Mike & Charlie ...

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    Mike,

    I am serious you are missing your calling. You are a true writer.

    To believe in you’re writing or not is not the issue. You are a born writer; please look into this avenue as part time venture if nothing else.

    SandraR

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EcomCity.com:
    Look out your window and tell those murdered in the Trade Center Towers on 9/11 that Americans should forget it ever happened. We are at WAR in case you forgot. I have a duaghter in Law who ashes are on that hollowed ground.

    Mike & Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    No one is saying that anyone should ever forget what happened. But to lump all members of a religion together, or to lump all people from certain countries together as bad is wrong.

    It is because of statements and beliefs like yours that there are so many religious wars.

    I find this kind of talk totally inappropriate and very offensive.

    If anyone else had made those statements here they would have been banned immediately and I find the fact that you are allowed to continuously go on this way very questionable.

    Why is it that Mike can say anything he wants and never gets warned? Or Banned?

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    Mike, using your logic *cough* all people with airline pilot licenses should be rounded up and shot - because those who flew the jets were pilots.

    Mike you are so confused/blinded, you somehow think Iraq was an Islamic state and that is why we invaded there. It is just not true. Bush even says it is not true, but your hatred is putting on such big blinders, you even ignore him.

    Chet

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    Connie have you ever thought I might be also speaking up for the 90% of Muslims too afraid to speak up praying GWB would come free them next?

    Mike & Charlie ...

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> We are at WAR in case you forgot. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    It is my understanding that we are NOT at war. The war was declared to be over after just a few days. We are now at reconstruction are we not?

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> They ONLY respect a superior enemy who has a boot on their neck and gun to their heads. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    So, Mike, are you saying Sadam knew his people and how to control his country and had it right all along?
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Connie have you ever thought I might be also speaking up for the 90% of Muslims too afraid to speak up praying GWB would come free them next?
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ah, and they will welcome us with roses just the same way the Iraqis did, too, right?

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    [This message was edited by SSanf on December 07, 2003 at 04:55 AM.]

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    Mike,
    Have you ever thought that there is NO ONE that wants you to speak for them?
    I find your political/religious rants very offensive and it is people with your mindset that cause lots of problems in this world.

    I like GWB, do not always agree with him, but I give him my respect because he is our president.

    I have no predjudices against any religions or beliefs. I judge people on their individual actions, not based on their religious or political beliefs.

    If I did, I would not like GWB just because you were one of his backers.

    This kind of talk has no place on an affiliate marketing forum.

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    SSanf,
    It is my understanding that we are still officially at war, just that the major combat has ended. The war was never officially declared as over.

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    Sorry, I thought it was declared over...well, I'm not sure there because I'm not sure it was really declared started either. I thought Congress had to do something for a war to be officially declared and I am sure that never happened.

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    Anyhow, before we go any farther with is war/unwar, when do we feel we have met our objectives, such as they may be, and come home?

    Does anyone even have a clue what the objectives are now?

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    How the war was "declared"

    Bush notified Congress on Wednesday he has made a determination that diplomacy will not work to disarm Saddam -- a condition required under a resolution approved by lawmakers in October authorizing the use of force against Iraq.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...ter/index.html

    Why the war is not officialy declared over:

    Victory and Geneva Conventions
    Bush did not formally declare the war in Iraq to be over.

    There are several reasons, highlighted by aides and scholars. For one, although major combat is over, skirmishes in Iraq continue as exemplified by deadly exchanges in the city of Fallujah between protesters and U.S. soldiers. Also, although Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled, the former Iraqi president and members of his inner circle, including his two sons, remain unaccounted for.

    Scholars familiar with laws governing war say that a formal declaration of victory would complicate efforts by coalition forces to track down the former members of Saddam's regime.

    "If we say the war is over, it makes it more difficult to pursue these individuals," said Anthony Clark Arend, professor of government and foreign service at Georgetown University. He has written a book on international law and the use of force.

    The Geneva Conventions also call for the release and repatriation "without delay" of prisoners of war at the close of hostilities.

    "Generally, that means you repatriate them to the existing government," Arend said. "Well, there's no place to repatriate them to."

    Pentagon officials said last week there were about 7,000 Iraqi prisoners of war but added that hundreds of them have been released.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...ech/index.html

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    Hum..I thought there was supposed to be an official declaration of war ratified by the Congress for it to be war. But, I will take you at your word on this since it is really just splitting hairs.


    This is about Mikes writing style:

    Propaganda-tools

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Propaganda-tool One is Atrocity Allegations.


    Propaganda-tool Two is Hyperbolic Inflation of the Stakes.


    These first two propaganda-tools create a powerful argument, no matter how true or false. Simply put, atrocity and Hyperbolic inflation assures that even if you are not sure it is true, you don't dare defend them in case it is true, and you certainly don't become involved.


    The Third Propaganda-tool is Demonetization and Dehumanization. In every conflict, the enemy must not have a human face. Broad brushes are used to slander and deprive human feelings for the attacked, otherwise onewould have to consider them as individuals.


    The fourth Propaganda-tool is Polarization, "Those not for us are against Us." Simple and is the basis for all manner of fights.


    The Fifth Propaganda-tool is the Claim of Divine Sanction, which frames all arguments, out of the human context and instead places it on God, Allah, or some other authority in charge of the action. Further the power to forgive for any excess of zeal is gained. This assures no matter how much one would feel the action is wrong, the person committing it is secure because God told them to do it.


    The Sixth Propaganda-tool is Meta-proganda, and the most powerful. This discredits the other sides propaganda not by challenging the veracity of a single story, but by repeating holes and mistakes on the whole argument and discredit everything coming from the enemy. The aim is to produce wholesale disbelief and close doors to redress. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    There are better written summaries of this but it is what I found quickly. We studied Propaganda-tools in school and it is easy to spot.

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    You can watch or read 20 different news sources and get 20 different takes on the issues.

    News sources and the average citizens do not have all the facts, there is much information that is classified due to security reasons.

    So no matter what you hear from any source, a lot of the what you hear is speculation and propaganda.

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    True, but was I the only one who had this in school? Dang I spotted every Propaganda tool in the book when we were being sold this "war".

    Question is what now? We have just escalated the brutality....and more of our kids and their citizens are having their lives ruined and being slaughtered....for what? News flash is we ain't getting that oil. And, this never was about terrorism. So, now what?

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    In a closed thread I posted "poor America " for having such an Administration. Liars and bigmouthes. And yes there is almost everything propaganda and almost everything censored, becaues nearly everything in medias is in hands of the oil bosses.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carneol:
    nearly everything in medias is in hands of the oil bosses.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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