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    Is this the proper place?
    I have read and used the search feature but still have ques if that is ok;

    First question is, if I get a purchaser, is it lifetime?

    Second question is, from reading here, am I going to do a lot of work and then get dropped? What the hell is up with that??

    That is my first two questions. Thank you for allowing me to ask. Where is the LOVE button?

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    First question - if you 're asking as an affiliate and get shoppers to your site and they click thru your links, it depends on the merchant and how long the cookie duration is and if that cookie gets overwritten or deleted. 30 day cookie means if they purchase within 30 days, you'll get a sale, if the cookie is still on their computer.

    Second question - it's possible. Sometimes merchants drop affiliates for whatever reason, close their affiliate program, go out of business etc.

    I can't tell you where the love button is, I'm only 12. But Mr. Sal should know.

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    Second question - it's possible. Sometimes merchants drop affiliates for whatever reason, close their affiliate program, go out of business etc.
    This is what disturbs me. I work hard to get folks to the merchant site. Is there no retention? If I get a fantastic purchaser, do I get dumped anyway?

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    If you drive good sales, they have no reason to dump you. But it does happen from time to time for various reasons. That's why it's good to find more than one merchant that you can do good with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher
    This is what disturbs me. I work hard to get folks to the merchant site. Is there no retention? If I get a fantastic purchaser, do I get dumped anyway?
    Our job is to not only drive traffic, but to pre-sell that traffic - we are all basically independent ad agencies.

    Pick your merchants wisely, build a relationship with them, and send good pre-sold traffic that buys.

    Building relationships is what this is all about - the better your relationship with a merchant, the happier you will be.

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    I see. Good to know. Thank you for the info.

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    I wouldn't let those concerns stop you. Most merchants never remove (legitimate) affiliates. Virtually all are ecstatic about big producers. You'll run across one every now and then that will remove you (usually due to inactivity, but sometimes due to changes in business models or other things), and that can be very frustrating. Sometimes you can find a replacement merchant to promote instead. That can take a lot of work if you don't plan ahead for that possibility while designing the site.
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    Thanks guys.

    Here is what I am finding. I am building my site from scratch and adding programs as I go. It's 'under construction'. The problem is that I am denied at a lot of places making it very difficult to build my site. I have to search for the programs that approve you right away. This is not my first choice on how to build a site.

    Also, since this is a brand new site I will probably sit in the sandbox for a bit. It's like a catch 22 - I can't build my site because I can't get approved, I can't get approved because my site isn't built.


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    A lot of people go thru that at the beginning. You can use the merchants that have approved you/auto approve and when you have something more substantial up, reapply to the others. Or if you can find the email to the affiliate manager who denied you and tell them what you just posted, that you need to be approved, get their links to build up your site, you might have some luck there.

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    Gotcha. Looks like I'll have to go the long way around. Patience seems to be the key as I am in it for the long run. Thanks for your help everyone and I now know the next step (s).

    I did a search for an auto accept list type post but was unable to find anything. Is there anything like that here?

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    Another way is if you already know the products or merchants that you would like to feature and build a page for that topic before you apply so that you have some kind of content for those keywords when you are approved. It will make approvals easier and help you move up in page rank faster when you do add products or merchants or banners.

    An example is if you wish to add ladies clothes you could write a few paragraphs about clothing, fashion or related content. When you apply to a merchant they can see where they would fit in and when you add their products or text links or banners, you are already started on having indexed content.
    This all depends on how you work, the kind of site you're trying to build, etc. but it is a helpful technique.

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    I've also seen a few savvy affiliates in your same catch 22 situation do this: on the page itself, besides having the usual "under construction" type text and graphics I've seen some that have a note to affiliate managers. It's usually just a small paragraph or a couple sentences explaining that the site will be x kind of site (insert type for x) and you need approval to build up the links before the site goes live.

    I can't really speak for the masses of various affiliate managers out there, but I know that I'll usually give the affiliate the benefit of the doubt when I see that and approve them so they can get their site up and running with the method they are most comfortable with. I just make a note to check in later. It's something you might consider trying. Certainly couldn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher
    I did a search for an auto accept list type post but was unable to find anything. Is there anything like that here?
    Sorry for the double post, forgot to address this & I can't edit my posts...

    I don't think there's any way on CJ or LinkShare to see which programs are Auto Approve, but I know for a fact that ShareASale shows you if a program is on Auto Approve before you apply, and it's been awhile since I logged in there but I think Pepperjam Network & Google Affiliate Network might do the same. That could help you just to get going with some programs until your site's up and running & more "acceptable" for the other AMs when reviewing your application.

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    I have taken the advice here and tried to fill some space and make it presentable to potential programs. I also added a few words explaining (begging ) that I am trying to build a new site. Thanks TrishaLyn. I'll sleep on it tonight as I have applied at many programs at CJ. Shareasale was the first place I applied to and was denied flat out. Extremely frustrating. I have filled some of it up with auto applies that I can find. It's double the work because I cannot find exactly what I want and my vision is muddled. I will have to go back and change most of it. Crazy! LOL

    Hopefully I'll be an old pro in no time. Thanks to all of you that so kindly took the time to help an extremely frustrated newbie. Happy '09!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher
    Shareasale was the first place I applied to and was denied flat out. Extremely frustrating.
    I don't think SAS as a network denied you.
    Individual programs can accept or reject an applicant.
    Try a different merchant program within the network.
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    Thank you for your application to shareasale.com

    Unfortunately, at this time, we are unable to accept your site for membership.



    The website listed on your application was: xxxxx

    Generally, our membership team looks for the following qualities in a site:

    Quality Site Design
    Top-Level-Domain (i.e., www.yourdomainname.com) (not required but recommended)
    Website Language (We only accept sites in English)
    Prospective ability of your site to drive traffic to our Merchants
    Any illegal, porn, hate, etc... on your site, or on sites that you link to
    Other misc. factors
    Your site also must be up and operational (viewable) in order for us to approve you

    (You can re-apply at any time if you choose to)

    You must have a valid web site or email address/list to participate in this program.
    If you do not have a website, you can visit http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm\?B=7247&U=178&M=2431 for low cost web hosting and registration.
    My site was brand new. I have a domain and a server. I only had the template up at the time I applied so it was rather a blank slate and I hadn't even added meta tags yet. I assume that is why it was denied.

    You are right and at least SAS could have let me at least peruse. CJ accepted me and I can find a few autos which helps. Share a sale wont even let me in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher
    My site was brand new. I have a domain and a server. I only had the template up at the time I applied so it was rather a blank slate and I hadn't even added meta tags yet.
    Perhaps you should flesh out your site a little prior to applying to a program. A blank template isn't going to wow anyone.
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    I didn't know I had to wow anyone. Hence the catch 22. I assume there is too much dead weight in these programs and that is why they feel the need to approve. Some places it is not nessacary depending on what the venue is.

    At any rate, it is more presentable now thanks to CJ and Betty Mills. I added tags and made it more professional looking although I didn't want to do that yet. Not ready for the bots.

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    Don't worry too much about it, Cher. Now you know and can start on some stuff. Just try SAS later once you've built it up a bit. Just from your statements in this thread you seem like you're understanding some things pretty quickly, yet understand that patience is needed as well. Don't worry, you're probably on par with how a lot of affiliates start out

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    Cher---Good for you!!
    You dive right in as a newbie! From one newbie to another great question!!! Dont laugh...I have some business experience but very little or zero website building knowledge-What is a bot??? Thanks!!! Look forward to seeing you succeed in 09!!!

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    TY TrishaLyn for the solid and much needed advice. At least I know I am on the right track.

    Hi jg1907. A bot is a search engine robot that comes by periodically and will index your pages and organize your site so that you may compete in the search engines. They come by regularly and index new pages and changes as you build. I usually like to be presentable before I invite the bots through tags. It's ok though. They will be back. Everything is just taking longer and as TrishaLyn says, patience.

    Good luck to you as well! I have a question for you and don't laugh too! Since you have some biz sense, what do you think about targeting globally. I am in the usa. Do you do separate pages for euros etc? Ok, really dumb question lol... Do usa consumers purchase outside of the usa very often?

    I feel like I'm in kindergarden.

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    I do believe there is potential outside the US. The key is--your market and product!!! I would be more than happy to share any insight...
    Thanks for the info on the bot...bot=robot...just was not 100% sure.
    Have you been to the Affiliate Summit??? Do you have any intentions on going to Vegas? Just wanted to know your thoughts?? As a newbie, I am seriously considering it but may feel like its my 1st day of kinder

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    I would love to attend the affiliate summit. I am heading to Fla on Friday though (I am in Mass). I will have to wait until the next one. I'll be at the newbie table LOL!

    I'm happy to say I have been accepted to a couple of other places and that helped a ton. Thank you all again for helping me through this obstacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher
    I would love to attend the affiliate summit. I am heading to Fla on Friday though (I am in Mass). I will have to wait until the next one. I'll be at the newbie table LOL!
    The next one will be in NYC so that shouldn't be too hard for you to jump down to from MA. I think it's fairly safe to say that the mentor program will still be around by then, so if the idea of going scares you at all you can get a mentor to help show you the ropes of the conference. Even if the program doesn't survive, I'm sure there will be people you can befriend online willing to give you some tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrishaLyn
    The next one will be in NYC so that shouldn't be too hard for you to jump down to from MA.
    I thought Affiliate Summits are always in Las Vegas?

    I haven't heard of one in NYC, can you provide a link with details? Thanks
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