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    About once a week we get a $5,000 - $15,000 order from Nigeria for candles... every single time we check with the bank, and of course the credit card is stolen.

    What is interesting is that they usually spend around $500 - $1,000 on candles, and then tack on something like $4,000 to $6,000 in shipping for FedEx 48 hour delivery to Nigeria.

    These are the only commissions that we've ever had to cancel. My question, is do they REALLY think we'd process a $6,000 order without verifying the information and funds?

    We've also had a couple of these types of transactions from Romania...

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    My name is King Scamu Badula. I need lots of candles... fast

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    Does anything legitimate (online) ever come from Nigeria? It seems the only people online there are scammers.

    Mike

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    I have a merchant (not you) with all their orders (they're small, not big) either reversed or extended, and the only answer I get are that the orders are from nigeria.

    Since that merchant is the only one doing this on my site, it is now scheduled to be junked.

    My question is, how do these merchants with proven almost 100% reversals (from pre-CJ6 stats) get to have a decent number of bars and EPC? What tricks are they doing?

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    The scheme is that you will return the excess shipping charges to them, that being the profit motive.

    Is there any follow-up by the credit card companies to track this scum after you check with the bank?

    Wayne

    ~The local burglar's 'exclusion list' does little to fight crime~

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by waytogo:
    My question is, how do these merchants with proven almost 100% reversals (from pre-CJ6 stats) get to have a decent number of bars and EPC? What tricks are they doing?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    CJ does not exclude fraud orders from EPC calculation. Only cancelled and returned orders are excluded. So these fruad orders of thousands of dollars increase EPC big time.

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    But they need them they don't have electic yet!!!

    Mary

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    I use Spamcop to filter out email originating from Nigeria and just junk it. About once a day someone asks me if they can buy something daft like 20 items costing $500 a pop, completely ignore the fact that a) my contact page says I can't help with orders and b) specifically says that email from Nigeria, China, Korea, Brazil and Argentina is treated as spam.

    Indonesia's the other one. <sigh>

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    On some orders payment is made via a cashier's check that looks very good. You can cash it at your bank, but will end up paying the bank back in two or three weeks. Meanwhile, the overpayment has been sent by you to some address in another country.


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