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    What's More Important - Country Where Site is Hosted Or Target Country?
    CJ is one place where I am trying to find a few good affiliate programs that will be a great fit to my website. My site is basically hosted in India but has an overwhelming traffic from US, UK and Canada.

    I am declined by a lot of programs; presumably because the site is Indian and as like all other Asian countries is perceived 'High risk'..I don't mind that. But shouldn't the approval or denial be based on what country we are targeting.

    Our users should be so willing to purchase the products since the products are American-made and so is local! A lot of products do not even come with an email that I can possibly contact!

    Do you see a solution to this?

    Thanks

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    Outsourced Program Manager Sarah Bundy's Avatar
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    Move out of India?

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    LOL..The cost of that option is so much higher than what the 3% commission is going to pay me! :P

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    It's quite possible that program managers may automatically reject your site based on your region or for some totally unrelated reason. Contact the program management for an explanation of why you've been rejected. Once you're armed with this information you can show why you feel your site would be a great fit and should be reconsidered.

    Good luck.

    -rematt
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    That's one reason why I work with so few CJ merchants. I've never understood the logic of denying someone automatically due to the country they live in. I'd think the language of their website or the topics covered would be the deciding factor.
    Why not signup with programs on Avantlink or Shareasale?

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    I really think the reason why so many merchant's have auto-decline on countries such as India due to the exorbitant amount of crappy blog sites that apply to one's program (not saying ur site is crap, as i havent seen it).

    Me personally, I manually review each applicant, and 99% of the time, the ones from India are weirdo blogs that claim they'll do SEM for you. I probably have over 200 affiliates like that, and so far, absolutely nothing from them. Having said that, I kinda understand why some may auto-decline affiliates from India..even I'm pretty close to doing the same, or at least rejecting those applicants now, despite what my program specialists at CJ say (they say to accept everyone, who isnt a parasite or bad neighbourhood site).

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    Knew This? Bet you didn't know this.

    There is a huge shortage of business class hotel rooms in Bangalore, Mumbai, and Delhi. All three places are overflowing with business people looking for deals, contract
    manufacturing, setting up offices and such ... not to mention tourists.

    India is one of the fastest growing destinations in the world.

    Use your traffic to build up a list of people interested in traveling to India (sometime),
    doing business there and the like then go to the local Indian merchants who provide these services and make deal to advertise their offers to your list. Make some rupis
    fast and easy ... plus, you can't trust the merchants on CJ or Linkshare.

    I think ... translators, hotels, car rentals with drivers, lawyers (Indian law was designed by the devil). accounting, phone centers, publishing, printing services and healthcare services would be worth looking into.

    The US Army is sending wounded service guys to India for medical treatment because for the most part it is first rate and cost significantly less.

    Ebay is revamping their Indian program ... a good place to sell Indian travel and business services is on EBAY ... you sign up the merchants and post their offers for them for a fee. Then advertise the offers globally.

    That's how you do it ... money for nothing but hard work.

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    "Do you see a solution to this?"

    There are a lot of merchants that reject just based on your location but if you contact them and just show them your site, you'll probably get in.

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    Hi Net4Biz

    Definitely something interesting there. But not sure if we can strategically fit that with the current sites we are operating. But looks like it is a great opportunity to expand what we have on our India portal - in.ygoy.com

    Thanks for the info! definitely something exciting I could work on!

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    Hi Trust,

    The problem is some programs which I get so excited about working with just provide a website URL in their advertiser page and not their email address. So, I basically have little scope to contact them in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymax Stores
    I really think the reason why so many merchant's have auto-decline on countries such as India due to the exorbitant amount of crappy blog sites that apply to one's program (not saying ur site is crap, as i havent seen it).

    Me personally, I manually review each applicant, and 99% of the time, the ones from India are weirdo blogs that claim they'll do SEM for you. I probably have over 200 affiliates like that, and so far, absolutely nothing from them. Having said that, I kinda understand why some may auto-decline affiliates from India..even I'm pretty close to doing the same, or at least rejecting those applicants now, despite what my program specialists at CJ say (they say to accept everyone, who isnt a parasite or bad neighbourhood site).
    Well generalizations and stereotyping have been a bane for a long long time, I know. I believe working with a legitimate company from India (targeting your potential customer base) is as much in your interest as it is for the Indian company.

    And a legitimate company that has a bouquet of options to choose from for monetizations might not stretch itself upto enrolling with your affiliate program which effectively means you have lost one possible golden goose.

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    You're being declined since your mailing address is in India, and advertisers may decline based on country than an affiliate is from.
    Quote Originally Posted by lostdeviant
    That's one reason why I work with so few CJ merchants. I've never understood the logic of denying someone automatically due to the country they live in.
    With the amount of fraud and/or term violations in CJ from publishers in India (as well as China), it's a necessity for some advertisers. A few bad apples spoil the whole country. Contact the advertiser and let them know why you want to be in the program, and what value your site will bring.

    At least the fraudsters from India seem to have subsided a bit, whereas the fraudsters from China have now started to list their locations as US/UK/CA where it's harder to automatically catch.

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    Publishers who realize barrier to entry due to the stigma China and India pose need to contact their affiliate managers and explain. Believe me that's all it takes! It might be one more step than a US based affiliate...but that might be your only option.

    Affiliate Managers, if you can, take a peak inside of your pending applications. If you are going to manually accept, you have to check a box and click 'accept' anyways, so why not take a look under the hood? Yes, it's a daunting task and easier to delete all "India's" - but then communicate that to publishers when they sign up. You can edit your branded sign up page, for example with a quick note about following up via email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmacbc
    Affiliate Managers, if you can, take a peak inside of your pending applications. If you are going to manually accept, you have to check a box and click 'accept' anyways, so why not take a look under the hood? Yes, it's a daunting task and easier to delete all "India's" - but then communicate that to publishers when they sign up. You can edit your branded sign up page, for example with a quick note about following up via email.
    The issue sometimes is time management... when 99% of the applications that come through are junk, we're willing to give up that 1% of good applications in the interest of time. I manually approve for our program, but I do auto decline some countries because historically those applications have proven not worth my time.

    Of course that said I completely agree that all a legitimate publisher from one of those countries has to do is ask me to consider their sites individually and if they're really on the level, I'll offer terms.

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