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    Affiliate Summit Guy Shawn Collins's Avatar
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    I've recently had to retire e-mail addresses I've had posted as contact e-mails for my various sites, and that has been a huge pain to get people to use new addresses.

    What are you doing to provide your e-mail to people that want to contact you for serious reasons, yet hide it from spiders and the like?

    I was thinking it might help to put it on the site as a gif, but with people having to type it in, it would add complexity to the contact process.

    I'd like to get something setup where people can submit a comment or question through a form that will go to me, but my e-mail would not be accessible through the code.

    How do you do this?

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    Shawn,

    I have a form on my sites that uses a PHP script to submit the email to me. This keeps visitors from seeing an email and keeps spiders from grabbing it as well.

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    Hello Shawn,

    Here's a JS code that works for auto bots that crawl for addy's .. not 100% hidden though.

    For further information, please contact: <script LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
    // Anti Email Search Bot Trapper Provided By: http://www.DesignerWiz.com //
    < !-- hide
    var user = "support";
    var domain= "designerwiz.com";
    document.write('<A HREF=\"mailto:' + user + '@' + domain + '\">');
    document.write(user + '@' + domain + '</A>');
    // unhide -->
    --> close the /SCRIPT here

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Swampy_Webber:
    Shawn,

    I have a form on my sites that uses a PHP script to submit the email to me. This keeps visitors from seeing an email and keeps spiders from grabbing it as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Me too. Highly recommend the use of forms for email. I've notice the amount of email goes up too. People at work seem to perfer using them. I've used (and still do) javascript to cloak the email addy but they don't last long. One site this year I've retired four javascript cloaked addys.

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    The main options are:

    1) Put your email in a gif. This has a disadvantage that people will have to type it in.
    2) Use forms. This works great, but make sure that your actual email address is in the program rather than in a "hidden" field that email bots can find. Most people prefer being able to use their mail client.
    3) Use javascript to construct your email address. This is what I do. People with Javascript disabled won't be able to email you, so make sure to use NOSCRIPT tags to explain why. If you use a canned script like the one shown above, make some significant changes to it. Email bots can be programmed to recognize those common scripts.
    4) Encode your email address. This is totally ineffective against all but the simplest email bots.

    I have one site that has been online for about 7 months and has used javascript to hide my email address from day 1. I get virtually no spam there. What I do get is obviously just guesses (sales@, webmaster@, hostmaster@, etc.).

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shawn Collins - I was thinking it might help to put it on the site as a gif, but with people having to type it in, it would add complexity to the contact process.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's how I do it and yes it does add complexity - thank goodness!

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    I use forms and never had a problem. Plus i've always hated clicking a contact link and then having my email open up. As someone visiting somebody elses site, when i click a contact link, i would rather see a form and fill that out, then have my email open up. I just usually close it like a pop up when it does.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TrustNo1®:
    I use forms and never had a problem. Plus i've always hated clicking a contact link and then having my email open up. As someone visiting somebody elses site, when i click a contact link, i would rather see a form and fill that out, then have my email open up. I just usually close it like a pop up when it does.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Trust brings up a go point there. An email program popping up can be rather distracting. Last thing I want is a customer leaving my site for any other reason than to click through to the merchant.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShoreMark:
    That's how I do it and yes it does add complexity - thank goodness!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I don't see communicating with the customer as a bad thing but an opportunity. But I can see how it can be annoying sometimes.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buddha:
    I don't see communicating with the customer as a bad thing but an opportunity. But I can see how it can be annoying sometimes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I look at it this way: I don't sell anything directly and I can't speak for the merchant, so there's no real value to my getting inquiries about anything on the site. I get link requests (for the content site) on rare occasions and they seem not to have a problem typing in the address. I did put up an email address (for people to send in particular events) for only a week, 2 years ago and it garnered no submissions but still gets spam to this day.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I look at it this way: I don't sell anything directly and I can't speak for the merchant, so there's no real value to my getting inquiries about anything on the site. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ditto.

    So I take care of the problem the surest way: There isn't any email addy on the vast majority of my sites! End of problem! Also, no idiots emailing either. Anybody without the knowledge to look in the whois for those sites is plain outta luck.

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    Affiliate Summit Guy Shawn Collins's Avatar
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    I'd like to use a form. Would somebody please steer me in the direction of a source for forms?

    Shawn Collins
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    &lt;script language="JavaScript">
    < !--
    var name = "EMAIL_ADDRESS";
    var domain = "YOUR_DOMAIN.com";
    document.write('<a href=\"mailto:' + name + '@' + domain + '\">');
    document.write(name + '@' + domain + '</a>');
    // --></script>

    I do not have problems using it.

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    I like using form mail CGI-BIN run the best.

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    I use a cgi form for my main site. The only downside is the inability of users to type their address correctly if they want a reply!

    I think most of my email spam is now virus generated, so it is my visitors computers that are relaying or sending me the porn links.

    Otherwise it works well, but watch out for certain cgi programs called formmail - they have bugs in the earlier versions that can open your server to abuse.

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    Another advantage of using a form is that you can specify certain information that you want if appropriate, using radio buttons and drop-down menus as compulsary fields.

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