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    Half a Bubble Off Plumb RemodelingGuy's Avatar
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    Can't Freaking Believe That I'm Using YAHOO Mail.. :-(
    Anyone that knows me, also knows that my family taps on some pretty nice pooters, while I, the one who pays the bills FROM WORKING ON THE POOTER owns a Boat Anchor, with software that pre-dates the internet crash of '2001.

    Well, my Outlook Express, with ancient information, was corrupted the other day.

    I wept like a little girl.

    I pissed everyone in the house off.

    My dogs are kicking back now...

    I finally gave in and ....

    I actually started a Yahoo Mail account...

    I've never used a service.

    My email addresses have been my own sites for over 12 years.

    Within 8 hours, I HAD to upgrade it, 'cause they blinded me with the free version.

    Well, CRAP - ....

    I miss my Outlook Express, but can't shut down for a day to take it to a Pro and see if he can get me back in the groove.

    Until then, two browsers open, grabbing email addresses from the sky, and having to send and forward with a yahoo addy -

    Thanks for letting me vent!

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    Sounds fun...

    I've been strictly web based email for years. Mostly yahoo. Never had any major problem (knock wood)

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    Dude ... if it says Yahoo on it ... it's a black hole product ... sucks to beat the universe. To work for Yahoo, you have to be dumber than a neo-con rightwinger.

    Use gmail if you must ... I use usa.net ... costs $39/year ... but no worries and spam gets filtered and you don't get spammed by all the system users, plus you can access it from anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemodelingGuy

    Well, my Outlook Express, with ancient information, was corrupted the other day.
    Jimmy.

    From Texan to Texan.

    WTF are you using a Microcrap product ? Why did you move to a fun site mail box too ?

    All you need to do is open Thunderbird or Citadel, my friend. Its all open source. And It sits on your server.

    Poor dog.

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    Jimmy, if you want to venture into web-based email you might consider GMail. (Anything but YAHOO! - some folks even set spam filters to block yahoo mail ) With Gmail you can implement your own domain addresses for receiving AND sending and it is free. I also have a couple of personal web-based accounts through www.everyone.net. I have been using them for years for a couple of vanity domains I have. Lots of services, only a few bucks per year and very reliable. G/L
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    RMG, I can probably help you with that Outlook Express problem. You want me to email you?

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    My vote is for Gmail.com, rather than Yahoo email.

    I have numerous gmail accounts. I set them up to download via Thunderbird (quit Outlook and Outlook Express YEARS ago) and to leave a copy of every email on the gmail server.

    Since gmail gives you bucket loads of free server space to store your email, while allowing you to also download that email via Thunderbird/Outlook/Whatever -- it makes the ideal backup system.

    Indeed, I had an email client go buggy on me before I started using Thunderbird. All I did was install Thunderbird, set up my gmail accounts in TB, and I was able to download all my emails all over again into TB.

    I've been doing the TB/Gmail combo for a couple of years now and would never again waste time with Outlook Express and Yahoo.

    But maybe that's just me.
    Generate more fake news.

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    I second the vote for gmail. At least with gmail you can forward your mail with little issues should you get another "service" lol
    I love gmail
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    I really am a doofus eh?

    I'm very surprised to see the hands go up for gmail.

    DBD, if you can help me fix it, please email me at jimmy at startremodeling.com - Everything is forwarded to my yahoo account.

    I started a gmail account and it's a little confusing.

    I'm assuming I can use my pop accounts there without gmail showing up when I send and forward?

    And what is TB ?

    I have some homework to do.

    Guess I need to come into the 20th century with my email.

    Just had Outlook Express for so long, I never had to consider anything else.

    THANKS for the input guys.

    edit: - AND GALS!

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    TB = Thunderbird. It's the nice, FREE email client put out by mozilla, the folks who brought us Firefox browser.
    Generate more fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
    With Gmail you can implement your own domain addresses for receiving AND sending and it is free.
    How is it free with your own domain? I just checked into this for FriendsofJaclyn.org and G charges $50/yr per POP or IMAP account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker
    How is it free with your own domain? I just checked into this for FriendsofJaclyn.org and G charges $50/yr per POP or IMAP account.
    If you send me mail at bill@mylastname.net it comes through my Gmail acc't and when I "reply" the domain shows as bill@mylastname - only if you look at the headers does G appear. But, alas, you are right - I have not used the POP functionality and did not know they charge for that. Sorry... I am now embarrassed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
    If you send me mail at bill@mylastname.net it comes through my Gmail acc't and when I "reply" the domain shows as bill@mylastname - only if you look at the headers does G appear. But, alas, you are right - I have not used the POP functionality and did not know they charge for that. Sorry... I am now embarrassed...
    Ok so kinda a hybrid solution. Let's see if I have this right...

    me@mydomain.com is an alias/forwarding email of myFreeGmailEmail@gmail.com
    You pull down incoming mail as POP from gmail.

    Then you have your client set up to with "Email address" and "Reply to" set to me@mydomain.com.

    That's pretty slick, and free.

    When you SEND, what server do you use? A google server?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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    When you SEND, what server do you use? A google server?
    [/b]
    Yup - the G server handles it - for me, anyway, because I am using it as web-based mail.

    I just sent you an email from my bill@lastname.net Gmail account. It should appear as thought it is coming from "my" domain unless you examine the email headers.
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    Oh... you don't send email via Thunderbird or such client? You totally use webmail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker
    Oh... you don't send email via Thunderbird or such client? You totally use webmail?
    You two are confusing the hell out of me....

    DBD sent me a fix for my OE, thought I had it whooped and now I'm back to square one.

    I don't want to answer an email or promote my site to others if they can see a gmail or yahoo address.

    To me, if that means anything, I think " scam " when I see a hidden address in the header. I get so much spam, some of it pretty freaking sneaky, that I actually do look at the headers.

    Gotta be a way to clean out my ancient OE, that has worked like a charm for me for 12 plus years and feels like a part of my site that I have not had an issue with for years.

    Not to mention the 1000's of contacts, interaction with those contacts ....

    Crap -

    DBD's links have some re-registration and new download instructions that I think I will give a try.

    I may be the only guy in the world using OE, but I miss it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemodelingGuy
    I may be the only guy in the world using OE, but I miss it...
    Jimmy.

    Citadel is a turnkey open-source solution for email and collaboration. One simple installation delivers a multitude of powerful features, including:
    I am asking you to scope Citadel Mail Here and download it here. You can get Citadel Support 24 hours a day here

    Thunderbird is a free email software package too. It is super simple to use. Easy to set up. Try it.

    PLEASE TRY IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker
    Oh... you don't send email via Thunderbird or such client? You totally use webmail?
    Yup - totally web-based mail for the last couple of years. I can work on emial from anywhere I have an internet connection - my iPhone, even your computer if/when I fly to KPOU or Sky Acres. Even the "Orioles" email account we normally use to correspond is web-based - just a private label system to which I subscribe.

    @Jimmy, I've tried 'em all - even that ol' Outlook Express (which, BTW, used to be my favorite). If someone checks the headers when I send them an email through GMail - they still (also) see reference to whatever domain I am using (registered to me). If ya wanna see fer yerself - PM me an email to use and I'll send you a couple variations of mine.
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    Count me in the list of Gmail fans. I "temporarily" switched from Outlook a couple years ago when I had a hard drive crash, and never found a reason to go back. Spam filtering is excellent. It's incredibly convenient having it web based, accessing it from my iPhone, etc.

    The only minor annoyance is that it shows as coming from ####@gmail.com with a reply-to real email address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey
    Count me in the list of Gmail fans. I "temporarily" switched from Outlook a couple years ago when I had a hard drive crash, and never found a reason to go back. Spam filtering is excellent. It's incredibly convenient having it web based, accessing it from my iPhone, etc.

    The only minor annoyance is that it shows as coming from ####@gmail.com with a reply-to real email address.
    Michael, you might want to re-check your settings - 'cause I don't get that. I just tested (again) and the "from" on my receiving accounts (two other web mails systems, including the old AOL):

    From: Bill Lastname <bill@lastname.net>

    I've got to look at full headers to see the Gmail reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemodelingGuy
    You two are confusing the hell out of me....

    DBD sent me a fix for my OE, thought I had it whooped and now I'm back to square one.

    I don't want to answer an email or promote my site to others if they can see a gmail or yahoo address.

    To me, if that means anything, I think " scam " when I see a hidden address in the header. I get so much spam, some of it pretty freaking sneaky, that I actually do look at the headers.

    Gotta be a way to clean out my ancient OE, that has worked like a charm for me for 12 plus years and feels like a part of my site that I have not had an issue with for years.

    Not to mention the 1000's of contacts, interaction with those contacts ....

    Crap -

    DBD's links have some re-registration and new download instructions that I think I will give a try.

    I may be the only guy in the world using OE, but I miss it...
    Next step is the
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemodelingGuy
    I may be the only guy in the world using OE, but I miss it...
    I always have used OE until last December when I got my new computer with Vista...

    After using OE for over 10 years, I didn't wanted to use anything else, but when I got this computer, it didn't have OE, it have Windows Mail... At first I was afraid to use the Windows Mail because I didn't wanted to learn another email program setup...

    So I give Windows Mail a try, and it was just like my old OE, but with many more good features than OE, and with better spam, and other nasty stuff protection than OE...

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    Bill and Bob, you can use Google apps free as you domain pop email account. I have it for several domains and I can now use email addresses that were spam bombed through the years but that still get legit email.

    You only have to pay for pop if you want a lot of users in the same account. Skip where they ask you to upgrade and just use the free version.

    I use Eudora and Google apps and one very cool thing is when I send an email locally through the G pop, it gets archived in my online account as well. So both sets of email are in sync. Plus anything that goes to the spam box doesn't get pop'd to your computer so periodically go login online and report spam that got through and check the spam box to upspam stuff they may have marked spam that isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
    Michael, you might want to re-check your settings - 'cause I don't get that. I just tested (again) and the "from" on my receiving accounts (two other web mails systems, including the old AOL):

    From: Bill Lastname <bill@lastname.net>

    I've got to look at full headers to see the Gmail reference.
    You're right. I just checked full headers on a recent one I sent and it's showing up as you described. It does show "Sender: ****@gmail.com" and has a few other (legitimate) Google references. I checked one of my oldest Gmail sent emails to see if it had changed over time, and that's how it was two years ago too. Perhaps Outlook (and maybe some other clients) were showing the Sender field. I remember that my emails would show up in Outlook as something similar to "From: ***@gmail on behalf of myreal@emailaddress.com".

    I just found some more info on a solution here:

    http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/0...s-without.html
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