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    Hi,

    i am thinking of developing a sports betting affiliate site, but i kind of have this giant question mark above it, because i don't really know how shady the whole market is. I know there are good betting sites and bad spammy and fraudulent ones, but overall what is this market like? Is it worth diving into? Is it worth adding indie programs, or should i stick with the CJ and BeFree programs (haven't found any in Linkshare) to be safe? Can you give me a few pointers?

    (I searched the ABW archives but couldn't find much talk about this, if it has been covered before, please guide me to the threads.)

    Thanks for any help in advance!

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    The entire gambling market is very difficult right now. Sports betting even more difficult than casinos, with regards to its legality. US residents are not allowed, by law, to use telecommunication devices to place bets. But, it is not clear if the internet counts as communication device.
    That is the reason why the question about the legality is not clear. If you live outside the US, you're definitely fine from a legal point of view. In other countries, it is legal to place sportsbets online.
    What sportsbooks are good:
    I have dealt with intertops.com, betwwts.com (my favorite as player, never referred any players there), the sportsbooks listed at vipprofits.com, bodog is somewhat well known as well.
    I recommend you check out the message board here: www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/ they have a section about sportsbooks. Ask more questions about it there.
    Hope this helps,

    Thomas
    PS: it is very, very difficult to get established in this market right now, as it's extremely competitive.

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    If you are new to the game, it would behoove you to start out by selling STUFF that people NEED.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I would be targeting only European users, so the US legalities do not apply. It is legal to place sportsbets here.

    Am i correct in assuming that i should be safer promoting UK-based betting companies than offshore ones (Curacao, Antilles, etc)?

    PS: Chief Beef, i do have other sites that sell STUFF, that people need (or want...).

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    The UK-based betting companies, as you call them ARE based offshore. But,yeah, brands like William Hill, Ladbrokes and Bet365 are long-established and will pay out. It is a tough market as other people have said. I do well with it though, so it isn't impossible.

    Rule of thumb for choosing who to affiliate with - the Antilles is fine, they have proper government regulation and licensing. The ones to avoid, generally speaking, are those based in Costa Rica.

    Some recommendations: Bet365 is a must, LadBrokes, SportingIndex for spread betting, VipSports for dollar betting, BetFair for exchange betting, BetWWTS for professional gamblers. These should be enough to be getting on with.

    Good luck.

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    Stay far, far away from Sports Interaction. I have seen them turn off their tracking, with no explaination and no answer to emails.

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    Thanks a bunch again, these are very helpful recommendations!

    markymark,
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The UK-based betting companies, as you call them ARE based offshore.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Uhmmm, am i missing something here? I checked out a few of them, they have a UK license, are a UK registered company, everything (thawte cert., CJ account, etc) shows UK, UK, UK. How would these companies be based offshore?

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    Before the change in the law in September of 06, I promoted for Vip Profits which is mentioned above. They used to be a good affiliate program, but since that law change they have become ultra paranoid about their site where US players are concerned. I looked over the site and you can still sign up as an affiliate (I think), but I don't recommend it. They are still paying residual income from old players signed up before Sept 06, but they are shorting out the affiliate checks without explanation.

    For instance, I was supposed to receive my 3rd quarter check sometime in November, but when it came it was only for 1/3 of the total. Either they are broke or they are keeping most of the commissions for themselves. Whatever, they definitely do not accept US players any longer, but they may still accept US Webmasters as affiliates, not sure.

    Since they are not paying the full amount of the commissions they owe these affiliates, there is certainly no way I could recommend signing up with them at this time. Also, I have been in contact with a prominent attorney who specializes in internet gambling law, and he specifically recommends that US affiliates do not promote sports betting at all. He says that if affiliates were to be prosecuted, it would likely be for sports betting promotion, while he feels casino and poker is a lower priority for the DOJ. In fact, they apparently are not bothering with poker at all, so if you want to start a poker site as an affiliate, there are abundant affiliate opportunities out there for it.

    Anyway, it is a gray area niche for affiliates since the law passed in Sept 06. I would recommend trying some of the big poker sites, and before you sign up just send them an email asking if they are accepting US affiliates. VIP Profits is not a good bet since they are retaining most of the commissions earned anyway.

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    you are replying to a thread that is 4 1/2 years old

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    sorry, I didn't notice that. I was looking for any posts that are about Vip Profits, but apparently there are none. sorry

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    Left the last couple of posts since they are appropriate, but closing the thread. If you want to start a new one go ahead, but this one is done.
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