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    Hi,



    I am new on this forum and hope to contribute

    Anyways back to my question, but first a little about me

    I am a major shareholder of a mine in south east asia, dealing in rubies and sapphires.

    Now back to the question

    You see we intend to launch something of a marketing campaign but i thought i would ask opinnions about it

    You see as you know we deal in rubies and sapphires, we wanted to offer these gemstones for free to anyone that wants them and the only thing they do is pay for the courier. The price of the gemstone will be absorbed by us

    Whats my purpose for doing this ?

    My purpose is so that my market share can be increased worldwide. My hope is that people that receive these gemstones for free will show them to their friends and etc, whom i hope will turn into future customers for us.

    My worries

    My worries is not so much about my customers but more about the importers that reside in the countries i will send these free gemstones to. They will no doubt cry foul, so i have to worry about the importation authorities. I have to take care not to run afoul of the anti-dumping, cartel creation and monopoly creation laws. So if anyone has good comments about these laws please comment, thanks.

    What is being offered for free

    2 namibian green sapphires = 0.30 carats total
    2 botswana multi coloured sapphires = 0.30 carats total
    1 cambodian blue sapphire = 0.10 carats total
    1 congolese red sapphire = 0.10 carats total
    1 madagascar blood rubies = 0.5 - 1.2 carats total

    The total weight would be about 1.5 - 2 carats in total, the market value would be about $210

    What is being offered is still tentative but this will most probably be it.


    Why do i make the people who order this free gemstones pay courier fees and not absorb them

    I do this to weed out any abusers for the system, you see i do not want a single person asking their mothers, fathers or future mother in law to get a piece. My purpose is to let everyone who wants gemstones get them and for myself to increase market share far and wide and not enrich anyone.

    My Question

    My question is basically how do i go about doing this, my idea is to advertise through blogs and brokers lines that we have. Someone once suggested me to try ebay (but put the price as $0). I am not sure which would be more better.

    Another idea some advised mes to try affiliates where if the affiliates get people to want to receive the gemstones, we pay the affiliates flat amount of money say $3-$5 (which we pay out of our marketing budget).

    But i am still not very sure whta is the best way, so anyone with good suggestions please jump in.

    Will it work

    This is the major question, will such a marketing plan work where you hand out your own inventory for free to get a higher market share and try to get more future customers in this age of internet.

    So far i have checked no jeweller or mines are currently offering this kind of deal or similar to it, so my competiton might be low, but will there be people requesting it, or will people be sceptical?

    Anyone please jump in with any commets bad or good, so i can make an informed decision for my business

    Ricky

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    notary sojac Herb ԿԬ's Avatar
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    I notice first of all, these are rather small stones.

    Are they faceted or roughs?

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    What is the range of pricing?

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    This sure reminds me a lot about what a scam looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herb ԿԬ
    I notice first of all, these are rather small stones.

    Are they faceted or roughs?
    They are facetted, we can do this as we already own the facetting equipment.

    I can't really hand out large stones that are IF(internally flawless, the highest grade) for free, as it becomes too expensive for a marketing campaign, the best i feel is for people to get a taste of how they actually look, so i feel the sizes are quite decent for the IF quality. I don't want to use lesser grade stones that are larger and opaque then people may think i sell sub standard stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant Consultant Team
    What is the range of pricing?
    Sorry, i don't get your question, the price range for what?? I will be handing the stones out for free

    Ricky

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurgerBoy
    This sure reminds me a lot about what a scam looks like.
    Hi,

    Thats also one of my fear, you actually spoke my mind. You see we are a genuine business, you can check google we are indexed there and have been around 1965.

    You see as i said in my first post, i was afraid that people maybe sceptical, i mean those that are sent through our broker lines we don't have to convince them, but we want to reach new customers, not have the same customers, any idea how this can be done?

    Ricky

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    Your giving stones for free to end users and pay affs $3-5 for acquisition?

    WTF?????????? Why for?

    As for trust ... no-one-will-trust-a-dot.tk domain. Much less your site.
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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    Your giving stones for free to end users and pay affs $3-5 for acquisition?
    WTF?????????? Why for?
    My purpose for paying affiliates that money is for them to just to get the word out and if they get people to request for it they get paid. You see we don't have any bases currently in the usa, if we did it would be easy but we don't. I mean it was just an idea someone suggested to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    As for trust ... no-one-will-trust-a-dot.tk domain. Much less your site.
    I know that site has been a big problem, not a good thing, but writing a new site and having a new name domain and to get it reindexed in google will seriously take along time couple of months.

    That plus we are miners, not programmers

    Ricky

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    It doesn't make sense. As Haiko said the site has no credibility.
    Who's going to buy ( or even accept for free) something hosted on:
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    It doesn't make sense. As Haiko said the site has no credibility.
    Who's going to buy ( or even accept for free) something hosted on:
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    The site was actually put up only give people information, although i agree it could have been done better.

    As for buying most of them come form broker lines, and they end up in the usa but the markup is huge, some retailers in the usa, for example like white sapphires mark them up nearly 800%, it riduculous they actually get away with it.

    Our purpose is only to try to move into the market where we feel we can offer the same goods at a better price.

    I mean the traditional advertising avenues are there, radio, tv, newspapers but none actually i fell have a kick.

    We only came up with this idea thinking that this will actually let consumers have taste of products, are we barking up the wrong tree?

    Ricky

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    So, you want to promote your website, but you also say that website isn't good enough. My suggestion is to forget about the promo and focus on creating a good credible online presence. Why invest in promoting something that won't eventually sell? As such, your current marketing plan doesn't make sense, and as an affiliate that's a big red light telling me to stir clear...

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    I think your best chance for this is to try working with some pitch man on TV

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    This offer absolutely REEKS, and is 99.9% certain to be a scam.

    The site layout is hideous, as if it were created by a ten-year-old in 1995. There is absolutely no indication as to who a customer would be doing business with: no individual or company names, no address, etc. We're supposed to believe that someone in Singapore owns a mine in Cambodia, and wants to build "market share" by giving away minerals mined in Namibia, Botswana, Madagascar, and the Congo, in addition to Cambodia.

    This makes no sense, especially since there is no company name or business entity identified.

    The procedure is explained as: first, the customer places a "deposit" and then (after an unspecified period of time) must pay the "balance" of the shipping fee, estimated at $30 (but I'm sure it will turn out to be more). Payments are ONLY accepted via a non-refundable payment system, and the recipient is identified only by two anonymous free-email accounts (@singapore.com and @gmail.com). The domain itself is also free (http://my.dot.tk/cgi-bin/whois.taloh...ngdom-mines.tk) and there is no identified registrant.

    I'm quite confident that no affiliate will ever be paid a dime and there will be no satisfied customers, ever. In the unlikely event that someone is stupid enough to pay money, I suppose it's remotely possible that they'll receive an envelope through a courier service, which may cause more headaches with Customs, and perhaps there will even be something in the envelope.

    I can't imagine that anyone would ever respond to this company's offer, nor enroll as an affiliate.

    Of course, this confidence-scheme might continue to be refined, using the advice we're giving, in order to eventually create an offer that might have some superficial appearance of validity. Then the crooks can start stealing.

    Why hasn't this thread just been closed?
    Last edited by markwelch; August 8th, 2009 at 10:16 PM.

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    If you kept reading past the first 3 sentences of the OP's first post and didn't think this was a scam then your the type of person scammers love lol.

    The title of the thread even reeked of scam lol.

    I want a fere stone!

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