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    Smile Future millionaire needs a helping hand...
    Here it is folks...

    As of 5am this morning I am broke, I mean my refridgerator is full, and I have inner karma, but the finer things in life (like a new Mini) are missing, and here's why... I've spent the last 5 years trying to make it as a website designer and in that time I've met a great many interesting and whacky folk in the webmaster world. I've also been a keen student of SEO and I'd like to things I got me a few tricks up the old sleeve. But when it comes to the kill, the hard sale, getting the thumbs up, AFFILIATE SUCCESS, that's where I've not managed to succeed. If you guys and girls can offer any constructive advice I'd be mighty grateful and I'd be sure to return the favour if in a position to do so. Thanks for reading...

    - Wellington

    p.s. I have a not-for-profit Twitter account that I update every day, it's here: http://twitter.com/seoresearch
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    Welcome to ABW

    Kudos on being a website designer.
    You wrote:
    ... But when it comes to the kill, the hard sale, getting the thumbs up, AFFILIATE SUCCESS, that's where I've not managed to succeed.
    Perhaps your inability to succeed is a function of what you were attempting to sell? You use 2 dramatic phrases: "when it comes to the kill" and "hard sale" -- those phrases suggest that you may have been coming on too strong.
    If you are a skilled website designer, why not create an appealing site and sell items that seem to have "liquidity?" [i.e. there are popular items selling well even though there is a recession]

    Anyway, use the search button and the button for new posts: you'll get up to speed
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    I looked at your SEOResearch page on Twitter and liked it; you offer some very good tips that could be relevant to a number of webmasters

    Affiliate success = Sales and there are many elements that combine to create potential success.
    You save you were a website designer, so design is not one of your obstacles. Perhaps members here could be of more help if you shared some of your general areas of interest?
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    Thank you for the advice Rhia. Do you know what the most popular website subjects are for affiliates? I have been told it's mobile cell phones, gambling and credit cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellington
    Do you know what the most popular website subjects are for affiliates? I have been told it's mobile cell phones, gambling and credit cards?
    Are those the subjects that interest you?
    If possible, a webmaster should focus on a topic of interest.

    My familiarity with the laws of your country is limited, but I believe that online casinos/gambling in illegal in the United States?

    Cell phones and credit cards might be examples of popular sites, but how liquid is the conversions for an individual webmaster? Perhaps a large portion of hits are due to information seekers and not buyers?
    Due to the credit crunch in the US [and according to some articles I have read in http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/ there is a credit crunch in the UK as well] credit card restrictions have tightened so not everyone who applies for a card would be accepted.
    I would think that an affiliate would only be paid for customers who were accepted into the program except perhaps for a nominal affiliate remuneration based upon a lead.

    Nevertheless, if those are the subjects you would like to focus on, success is possible.
    I think you chose very tight markets -- I hope the merchants offer generous cookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhia7
    My familiarity with the laws of your country is limited, but I believe that online casinos/gambling in illegal in the United States?
    Tons of pokerstar, etc ads on late nite poker shows on TV - should be legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeksSteven
    Tons of pokerstar, etc ads on late nite poker shows on TV - should be legal.
    "Indoor prostitution" is legal in Rhode Island and Nevada, so why not have ads for "indoor prostitution" on top of the ads you mentioned above as well?

    If such ads were allowed online I'm sure they'd be lucrative and some affiliates in those niches would be glad. If such online ads were taxed it would line the state coffers -- the budgets could look nice for local elections
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    I've seen ads all over specific gambling niche type sites, hosted in the US. Tons of programs that accept us traffic. Example

    Hey Wellington...most successful affiliates are not going to share the niches that work best for them...sort of adds more competition to the field. Reseach, reading here and other forums/blogs, trial & error will most likely benefit you in the long run over someone just offering you a specific niche.

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    I've put some credit card banners on some pages prior to the recession but they didn't generate anything for me -- maybe if I wrote interesting economic articles I could generate fulfilling leads?
    Since the US is still in a recession and credit is still being restricted, I intend to put any affiliate efforts connected with credit cards on hold. Too many people are defaulting on their loans; it's not easy to sign up a legitimate customer.

    There's constant trial and error in terms of popular niches. I think it helps to be interested in the topic[s] of one's website/blog.

    There is volatility in what sells.

    I wish I had your web design skills. Earlier this evening I "discovered" this web design advice and decided to share the tips in the helpful articles subforum.

    Are you looking for sales tactics? Approaches can vary online & off.
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    I find this magazine helpful:
    http://www.websitemagazine.com/content/

    Here's my last piece of advice tonight:
    mobile cell phones, gambling & credit cards
    are too broad and are topics that really don't allow for much creativity/differentiation in a saturated market *unless* you are so techie that you can write interesting blog articles about cell phones that beat out all other bloggers on the topic.

    Pick instead something that you can really connect with on some type of level -- it's the connection that gives site visitors that extra push to actually click & buy from your site

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeksSteven
    Tons of pokerstar, etc ads on late nite poker shows on TV - should be legal.
    If you notice all the adds for Poker sites advertise their site.NET web address with the disclaimer that "this is not a gambling site." All major poker sites have a free play site then try and get you to their site.COM where money is live!

    Online poker is a very gray area in US law, the problem is the passage of the UEIGA (sp?) which prevents banks and credit card companies from processing any transactions to any gambling site, including poker sites. No money no play.

    There was a bill introduced into Congress resently that specifically legalizes games of skill (such as poker) online but it has a tough road to hoe.

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    Thanks for the above advice. I'm UK-based (London) and interested in the following subjects:

    TRAVEL
    DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY
    HISTORY
    SPORT

    Just my opinions: UK and US web design varies considerably, both in terms of content and also style. On the US side it's less graphically creative but more punchy, appealing to the masses and hard-hitting and obviously attracts far more users. On the UK side the style is all-important as this creates trust (we Brits are generally very untrustworthy of web stuff for good reason!) whereas the content for UK users tends to me more specifically targetted at niche audiences and in-depth.

    I personally prefer the US market because there's a larger target audience, and it makes more money. The golden key would be to create a .com site that appeals to both markets, and this would surely be related to TRAVEL (affiliate side would be flights and hotels).

    There's something formulating in my big bean around an advice site for US to UK travel...

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