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    How Long Has Shopping Results Shown Up In The Serps
    Haven't really been paying attention so it might not be anything new but

    3 product links upper right, then 5 from 5 different stores about 4 down

    http://www.google.com/search?q=alice...ient=firefox-a


    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=f&oq=&aqi=g10

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=f&oq=&aqi=g10

    Ah, from reading around it looks like they started testing it out this Summer.

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    I've seen it for quite awhile now. But I haven't seen images in the right column until I clicked the links you posted.

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    It's kind of hard to compete with the big guns when G gives them the opportunity to dominate the SERPs like that...

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    Not really fair I agree. I think I started noticing them around the #3 position for my niche(wine) a week or so ago. Before that, they were down at #10-12 stealing only 2% of the clicks or so.

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    Those appear to be all paid ads and not organic SERPS. Adwords with images. If you use the search tools on the left you can mess with it by clicking Fewer Shopping Sites. I have been seeing this stuff a while and started a thread on it a while back.


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    From what I understand (perhaps I have wrong info), but those are product SERPs from GAN merchants. Talk about a super Affiliate.


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    Actually, the connection is between AdWords and Google Merchant Center/Base. That's how the right column product ads get there. It's still in beta.

    Not 100% sure Gary, but I don't think GAN has anything to do with it.... yet.
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    Gotcha. Not sure where I heard that. Maybe it came to me in a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin
    That's how the right column product ads get there.
    And if you look at those ads in Trust's first example you will something different. On the right the top 3 ads are for the same merchant Spirit Halloween. What is happening to the one add per merchant idea. Also they aren't showing the domain as usual.

    Those listed under the center Sponsored Links are titled "Shopping Results for alice and wonderland costumes". These aren't natural search results but don't really have Adwords like urls. Some kind of hybrid with the image going through google and the text through the merchant's domain. Both lead to the same page.


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    I did a search for Bose Stereo.....One sponsored ad at the top. Three image ads on the side and all three have clickserve urls.

    Edited to add: So does Google Merchant Center/Base also have clickserve urls?
    I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Bud Lite than Kay.

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    John: I'd say intensely competitive search terms are showing the Base/AdWords hybrids in both locations.

    Suzie: Those look like AdWords URLs to me in the Sponsored section.
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    Suzie: Those look like AdWords URLs to me in the Sponsored section.
    I just want to clarify: When I copy the link and paste into notepad, there are clickserve urls in the text links with the image ads.

    When I copy the link from a non image ad, I do not see clickserve urls, just the merchants url.

    Do you not see those clickserve urls?
    I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Bud Lite than Kay.

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    Hmmm. You may be right... I was looking at the coding and i thought I saw the Adwords strings in there, but maybe not...
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    So are they placed there by affiliates or by Google as the affiliate?

    I don't mess with Adwords anymore, is there an option for adding images with your campaigns?
    I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Bud Lite than Kay.

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    One thing that we can agree on is that the look above the fold is vastly different. With the column on the left, wider right column, and more space tied up center top with ads and products. Could they be moving too fast from what worked so good? I don't think they are finished with all the new stuff yet.


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    Does look different for product searches. Some more informational type searches that I do, look fairly normal, ie: no product images.

    Could be they are only pushing them for the season.

    But if those ads are from Google as the affiliate, that stinks. That would mean they are taking the top three spots for free and are they still getting top dollar for what is now fourth position?
    I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Bud Lite than Kay.

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    Google as 'super affiliate' seems to be full speed ahead.
    Do a search for 'mortgage' or 'home loan'. Or maybe 'books'.
    Plenty of other terms.

    I read somewhere else, they are going after real estate next. I expect eventually google will magically appear 1st for most of the big money terms.

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    Good and Abso-Freaking-Lootly absurd....

    Doesn't seem to affect my organic results ...

    Just my PPC terms .....

    I don't keep up w/ my PPC terms like I used to.

    Have 1000's to deal with.

    I just know what the norm is and let it ride as long as I am seeing the ROI I expect..

    Didn't know you could buy a term, add a graphic and take up the top 3 results in the right hand border.

    Goog is stacking the deck against PPCers over the holidays!


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    Quote Originally Posted by simcat
    Google as 'super affiliate' seems to be full speed ahead.
    Do a search for 'mortgage' or 'home loan'. Or maybe 'books'.
    Plenty of other terms.

    I read somewhere else, they are going after real estate next. I expect eventually google will magically appear 1st for most of the big money terms.
    Yep, posted a thread about that little bit ago - http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread...ghlight=google

    And it very well could be just me or I'm in the minority but was shocked at a recent poll here about how many people use their "free" analytics on your sites. I think affiliates/affiliate marketing has let them in way too much. Some stuff you can't help, others there are options. Letting a competitor mine you to death.

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    I've never even considered using analytics, but in the end it probably wouldn't matter. Just gives them some added insight into user behaviour once they are on your site.

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    Google Analytics isn't too concerning to me. They have so many cookies from so many sources on shoppers computers it's not really even worth discussing what they know and what they don't know anymore.

    They just know. Period.
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    They know a certain amount for sure. They know more when you give them more. Why would you give up info to what could be a competitor when you don't have too? When there are other options out there? To someone who can Google Slap you at anytime and not give you a reason. I even saw people on Twitter today start talking about Google Big Brother because of - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/...ublic-dns.html

    People who don't usually talk like that, was a little surprised. They are a business, this stuff isn't all free just because they like you a whole bunch, it's business behind it.

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    To your point, I'm evaluating Woopra currently... The desktop realtime web analytics app is wicked addicting....
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