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    Bing's Dumb Little Popup Ad Windows
    I hope the dumb little Bing windows that pop up around the text in articles isn't Bing's answer to competing with Google. Those are the most annoying things. I'm sure there is a name for them other than dumb little Bing windows, but I actually looked on one and couldn't find what they call it.

    Anyone else find them incredibly annoying?
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    I hate them. That's why I don't use Bing.

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    I've used Ixquick for my search engine for years. I like the way it works inside my Firefox browser as a plugin. And with as much as the big Internet giants know about me, I take a little comfort in knowing my Ixquick searches are private.

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    Nothing new. MSN and Ask have been using Kontera ContextLinks and IntelliTXT for years to do the same thing. Just search for "block kontera" or "block intellitxt", and you'll find out how to stop that. I think those companies might let you opt out via their sites, directly.

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    A lot of sites use those types of methods and it makes it damn near impossible to read their articles.

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    If you think Bing's are bad...you should visit "thefind dot com." A week ago I was searching for a product and came across that Product Search Engine - what a joke. It found products I put in the search query field and started with a decent-looking display. But when I moved the mouse to a product a BIG pop-up of information would appear. Actually way too much information for initial browsing - the pop window covered about 1/3 of the display window - making it impossible to see about 1/3 of the products without moving the mouse way off the intended target.

    Bing has a minor annoyance, that other one is not "friendly" at all. So, I went back to Goog, eventually found what I was interested in - read reviews - next morning found it in a local store - bought it.

    Seems like Micro$oft keeps trying to do "search" - but it just becomes very trying (if ya know what I mean).
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    I'm actually quite happy with Bing search results. Just use it side by side with Google for a while, and you'll find what types of searches get better results on each engine.

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    Some how Bings conversion ratio on natural SERPs equals Google's results. Neither of their respective CPC Ads equal the natural search clicks for conversions. Then again I'm spoiled with first page results as if they were reserved parking spots at the front door of all Mall shops...
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    [QUOTE=ecomcityNeither of their respective CPC Ads equal the natural search clicks for conversions. [/QUOTE]You're probably not doing it right . You should be keeping your natural pages optimized for the SERPS, and your PPC landing pages optimized to drive the consumer through the purchasing process, and constantly testing so that your conversion on PPC ads becomes much higher than natural clicks. And then there's a volume constraint on natural, that can be helped by moving up in paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeeMaw
    A lot of sites use those types of methods and it makes it damn near impossible to read their articles.
    i have the same nuisance to deal with whenever sites employ the contextual ads like that. they are very intrusive ads. the question is how well do these ads perform?

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    From my perspective, BING PPC sucks like the biggest black hole in the universe.
    The impressions are a joke and CTR is dreck ... and I am SUPPOSE to be on the first page and in the top 5 of my relevant keywords or so their software says.

    Yet when I do a search, I am nowhere to be found ... it's all Amazon and EBAY on both the SERP and Sponsored links.

    PPC is becoming a waste of time ... not because you don't get a few clicks, but you don't get any ad impressions to speak of given the keywords.

    The keyword - netbook - on BING only got 12,000 or so searches last month. I can get that many per day for way less than I am spending on BING to supposedly be in the top 5 of PPC.

    The PPC deal on Google, Bing and Yahoo is ALL FRAUD ... I doubt very much that all the so-called software is legit and that you get on the first page by paying big bucks up front, just like CPM but it is couched in how honest the searches are ... NOT.

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    Adwords campaign stats for a few weeks
    Total - all but deleted campaigns clicks=1,363 impressions=1,559,984 CTR 0.09% Aver Cost/click= $0.30 cost=$406.41 av position=3.3 sales=14 cost pere sale=$29.03 conversion rate=1.03% video click through views=2
    Total - search 757 72,913 1.04% $0.33 $252.16 6.6 13 $19.40 1.72% 0
    Total - content 606 1,487,071 0.04% $0.25 $154.25 3.1 1 $154.25 0.17% 2
    Total - all campaigns $225.11/day 1,363 1,559,984 0.09% $0.30 $406.41 3.3 14 $29.03 1.03% 2

    meanwhile from all traffic sources sales= $60,625.27 3.82% Conversion Rate
    881 Transactions with $59.46 Average Order Value
    Visits
    25,793

    % of Site Total: 100.00%
    Revenue
    The total revenue, including tax and shipping, from e-commerce transactions. Revenue
    $60,625.27

    % of Site Total: 100.00%
    Transactions
    The total number of e-commerce transactions. Transactions
    881

    % of Site Total: 100.00%
    Average Value
    The average value of an e-commerce transaction. Average Value
    $59.46

    Site Avg: $59.46 (0.00%)
    Ecommerce Conversion Rate
    The percentage of visits which resulted in an e-commerce transaction. Ecommerce Conversion Rate
    3.82%

    Site Avg: 3.82% (0.00%)
    Per Visit Value
    Average per-visit value is the average value of a visit to your site and is calculated as Revenue divided by Visits. Per Visit Value =$1.96

    _________________________ snap shot of some of the values
    visits revenue transactions ave $sale Conv rate per/click value
    1. google / organic 11,869 $5,169.48 102 $50.68 0.86% $0.44
    2. (direct) / (none) 2,889 $6,145.58 103 $59.67 3.57% $2.13
    3. yahoo / organic 1,932 $1,221.26 22 $55.51 1.14% $0.63
    4. google / cpc 1,548 $236.55 4 $59.14 0.26% $0.15
    5. **bing / organic 1,316 $556.01 14 $39.72 1.06% $0.42
    6.main site to cart.com / referral 1,190 $31,641.91 536 $59.03 45.04% $26.59
    7. search / organic 945 $126.84 2 $63.42 0.21% $0.13
    8. images.google.com / referral 733 $99.80 1 $99.80 0.14% $0.14
    9. aol / organic 440 $248.00 4 $62.00 0.91% $0.56
    10. sub sales site.com / referral 232 $2,894.65 51 $56.76 21.98% $12.48

    ** Bing.com out performs Google Adwords with same landing pages and basically the same keyword Text Ads and a few banner Ads.
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    Sources Visits % visits
    google (organic) 11,869 46.02%
    (direct) ((none)) 2,889 11.20%
    yahoo (organic) 1,932 7.49%
    google (cpc) 1,548 6.00%
    bing (organic) 1,316 5.10%
    ___________________________________
    *** Referring sites sent 4,707 visits via 418 sources Pages/Visit =3.54 Avg. Time on Site=00:03:21 % New Visits =85.45% Bounce Rate 40.83%
    Of the referal site Visits of 4,707 produced Revenue $39,874.55 Transactions=
    629 Average Order Value =$58.62 and Ecommerce Conversion Rate =13.36% with Per Visit Value =$7.83 verses the Site Avg: $1.96
    _____________________________________
    Best conversions ratios comes from natural SERP traffic from any SE and satellite sales sites with "Buy now" shopping cart buttons who get natural traffic

    ****Overall the merchant has averaged 1 sale per 20 visitors from any traffic source for the last 6 years and pauses the major PPC ad campaigns except for prime shopping periods. Banners on the content networks can be tweeked to get great branding impressions and equal the CTR rate for text ads. Summary is Google Adwords traffic should only be viewed as branding as the sales revenue value per click averages between 14 to 21 cents/click (half the cost)
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    Google Adwords Visits =1,552 % of Site Total: 6.02%
    Revenue
    The total revenue, including tax and shipping, from e-commerce transactions. Revenue
    $236.55 and % of Site Total: 0.47%
    The total number of e-commerce transactions. =4

    % of Site Total: 0.45% Average sales transaction Value =$59.14

    Site Avg: $59.46 (2.91%) Ecommerce Conversion Rate
    The percentage of visits which resulted in an e-commerce transaction. Ecommerce Conversion Rate
    0.26% Site Avg: 3.82% (-97.65%)
    Per Visit Value for Adwords visitors = $0.15
    Last edited by ecomcity; November 24th, 2009 at 01:28 PM.
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