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    I have been learning and doing affiliate marketing for about 1 year now. I have grasped the principals of SEO and feel I have a good understanding of them. Some of my pages on some of my sites have gotten the #1 position on google, some #1000 and most in-between somewhere.

    I am reading here about all the heavy hitters who are making $10,000+/month and just cannot see/calculate/figure-out how this is done?

    Some of the websites I have put up have sold some ebooks that give a 50% commission and I have made a few hundred/month....but the heavy hitters are selling products (I imagine) where they recieve average 10% only.

    At the same time I am reading that they don't use much in the way of PPC advertising and that most of thier income comes from Search Engines like google and Yahoo.

    If I do the math on that.....they would have to be getting one HECK of alot of traffic with those low commission rates to consistently get that check every month.

    I just cannot see it??

    Mrs MarySunshine says "build a page/day and a site/month" ... she has given alot of good advice that I am thankful for...Other heavy hitters say the same thing, learn SEO and build a page/day etc...

    But something must be missing from the formula.

    What does one sell? How to know what sells online? Is that what is missing I don't know...but I hope that this thread can be used to fill in what is missing... and that all us newbies LOL can get a clearer picture.

    This is a great board! I'm glad I found it.

    thanks

    mopek

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    "What does one sell? How to know what sells online?"

    Almost anything sells online. If someone is selling a product, then it stands to reason that there is a market for that product, or the merchant wouldn't be trying to sell. Find the right merchants, and you can make a fortune. Find the right products combined with the right merchants, and you can make more than you could have dreamed of. However, most people never get the right combination.

    Yes, it is possible to earn an average of $10,000 per month for a 12 month period, because of the massive potential over the Christmas shopping season.

    It is much harder to earn $10,000 in April though.

    Knowing what to sell comes with experience.

    Yes, keep building quality pages every day, with the emphasis on quality. If you build pages that are attractive to those who are willing to buy, then you will make the money. Attract enough buyers, and you can make a lot of money. Make 1 page, and you could earn a few dollars. Make 1,000 pages, and you could be making a lot more than a few dollars. However, do not make the mistake of thinking that having 100,000 pages will automatically earn you a fortune. The pages have to be good.

    Quality over quantity, combined with the right products, combined with the right merchants who sell those products multiplied over and over again for each product = lots of money (potentially)

    Quantity over quality = zip

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    There are many people making fortunes just using PPC, dont discount it. Some of the top performers from many merchants are PPC advertisers.

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    Julian is correct, everything sells. Just think of what people need, and what do you buy? you couldn't live without water, you couldn't live without toilet paper,you couldn't live without food, people do buy online. And I am having great success, and I'm expecting to make more then I did at my last job for may. It's because I never gave up, people who do not want to put a effort into trying the first month to even get a check(make sites) will usually not believe this works and would rather be working for someone else. this industry I feel puts me at a advantage because of my experience in retail/grocery. This industry is more to me then just money, it's the freedom from a job and helping others gain freedom. It's not a get rich quick. it takes hard work and putting your customers first, Because without them you do not have a business. You see I define my business a multi million dollar in sales company within the next couple years, Because I have a dream and a huge dream that effects alot of people and no matter what I believe my business is going to be a big hitter because the effort I put into my business and the research I put into it. Hey If I Can make more in a month from my business then my x job I say that's great success.

    A hint: Remember it's a sales game. you make sales you make $.

    Jason

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    Nobody ever went broke selling things that people want.

    Well, almost nobody

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    Thanks for the quick replies!

    Julian - what would your criteria be for choosing the "right" merchant and the "right" product?

    Your last post also had a formula for making lots of money....but then you put "(potentially)" at the end LOL. Now I know why many people find it hard and give up....because they very well can be doing the right things and still not make money.

    Chrisk - how do you know that? I didn't read it anywhere?

    Jasonco12 - Everything sells but does everything sell alot. My first thoughts when trying AM was
    "what would people buy online? Probably something that is a hassel to buy offline ... like gambling, travel, etc... and things that are hard to get offline like Penis Pills (so much spam!) and medical drugs and Porn"

    Many of those categories are very competitive and saturated. Books,CD's, Movies are very hard to sell since most people like amazon, CDNow etc...

    I was surprised to see that many people bought things like food online? Not just chocolate and stuff but actual groceries?

    I can see now that the "real" work in AM is not in the SEO and the building but in the researching and researching and more researching which can take days, months even.

    mopek

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    My knowledge comes from speaking directly with some affiliate managers. There have been instances where affiliate managers have told me that my web sites have been the only sites to perform as well as the PPC players. Note: I am talking about product based programs and not service programs.

    I myself have tried the PPC game several times with only marginal success. ... I plan to try again very soon...

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    I do quite well without ppc. However, I would like to get into ppc at some time in the future. It just seems so mind boggling at times. The potential for losing a lot of money just makes me reluctant to do anything with ppc

    Yes, you can get things right and still not make much money.

    "what would your criteria be for choosing the "right" merchant and the "right" product?"

    Trial and error. Lots of nightmares. Lots of headaches. Lots of heartache. Whatever it takes

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    This is a rough idea of what I have done ... but then again, i have not done very well yet...

    1) Find products that you think can convert VERY well and will have a good commish payout. $1.00 commish products just wont work with PPC.

    2) Brainstorm PPC words (the hard part). At a maximum, you probably want to pay about 1/25th of the commish - less is better of course.

    3) Ensure the merchant tracks with a test purchase

    4) Set a BUDGET. Spend some money and stop the campaign. Depending on the merchant and network you may have to wait a few days to sales to show up. See if you made money. If it is clear that you did, go for it!

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    Hi mopek. I suggest you choose products first, then merchants who sell those products. I only market products that have a $20 minimum commission.

    Also, find products that have to be re-ordered each month or quarter - And companies that pay you commissions on those continuing reorders.

    Ray

    6/1 Income to expenses and climbing

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    Thanks everyone for all your help

    mopek

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