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    http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/foru...?TID=2199&PN=2

    I read this thread over at another board, and there is one poster who states that he has made (commision) over $200,000 in a month, and on average makes over $100,000 a month with a certain prescription drug merchant.

    He says that the main reason why he is able to make so much is because this merchant pays 10% on refills, for life.

    Their commision is $20 and 15% on first orders, and 10% on re-orders for life.

    If you were to work the numbers out on paper, it would still take A LOT of people to order to get that kind of money every single month.

    Do the math, and you'll see what I mean.

    And, the ones who do re-order won't do it for life anyway, since they will find a cheaper place to but their drugs. This place is REALLY expensive, so the customers, MAY, re-order a couple of more times before finding a cheaper place. After all, wouldn't you???

    I don't know. ... I don't think that kind of money can be made. It doesn't add up on if you were to figure the numbers up.

    I think maybe he is the owner of the site and he is trying to drum up business. But, I'm the suspicious type, anyway. ;-)

    If only we can get Drugstore to do life-time refills!!

    Hey, Ross, are you listening?! :-)

    [This message was edited by NoBody on January 22, 2004 at 06:26 PM.]

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    That's the truth. I've seen his sites. There are affiliates making more than that per month in the Rx industry.

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    I think you are missing the point....

    RESIDUALS.... work once get paid for life...

    I dont know if the poster is telling the truth, but I can say this...

    I know of more then a few affiliates who frequent ABestWeb that earn more than $10,000 per month from the pharmacy segment....

    So, it is entirely possible to earn $100,000 in refill perscriptions...

    Joe

    And, that's the bottom line because it's my2cents!

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    kellmk, I don't know, I would still bet no. You have seen his sites, but have you seen his checks??? I hate to sound so negative, but man, you have to see it on paper, to know 100% that that kind of money can be made.

    Have you tired doing it? My partner and I are thinking about experimenting with it for a few months, to find out for ourselvs.


    "RESIDUALS.... work once get paid for life..."

    What do you mean by that, my2cents?

    Yeah, it's doable to make $10,000 a month, but think about it, if these experienced affiliates here are making that much, why aren't they pushing it to the limit to make more??? I think that figure of $100,000 to $200,000 is overboard.

    If you figure it out on paper, and know that most, if not all first-time customers won't re-order with an overly-expensive merchant...the numbers just don't add up.

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    He has about 200 sites and many top rankings in google for very competitive terms. I would say one ranking he has is worth about $2K a day. It's true.

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    200 sites?! What the *bleep*!

    Man! ... Okay, yeah, I would believe it then. I forgot that little detail of having a slew of sites out there. ... Oops.

    Can you PM me the link to one of his sites???

    Thanks, bud. :-)

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    I'd rather not PM you the link because I wouldn't be happy in someone did that to me. You should be able to figure out one of his sites from his username in the other forum. Sorry...

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    Ok, no problem. Thanks anyway.

    [This message was edited by NoBody on January 22, 2004 at 08:44 PM.]

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    I know that a lot of the high earning pharmacy affiliates are spending huge sums on PPC, and I mean over $100,000/month.

    So the amount on the check may not represent anything like the profit made.

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    Residuals are exactly what i said... "work once get paid for life..."

    I always look give perferance to programs with "lifetime commissions" inother words programs that sell on going billable sevices.. ie... telecom, pharamcy, hosting etc... these types of programs pay over and over and over...

    I make real income from these...


    Joe

    And, that's the bottom line because it's my2cents!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I make real income from these <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    That is if you can get your downline to sell. The one 2-tier I'm actively promoting got me quite a few people in my downline, but up til today, not one of them made any sales.

    Parasites are thieves. What are you going to do about it?

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    Pharmacy is very competitive, and in my opinion, not some place to go now. There are people out there making 6 figures from lots of different programs... programs that are not in the middle of litigation/FTC scrutiny. I have not stopped promoting the few pharmacy merchants that I was promoting before the sh** hit the fan, but I am staying away from anything new.

    With that said, I have no doubt at all that there are more than a few affiliates in the pharamacy industry profiting more than 100K in a month. Some use spam, some use SEO, some use pay per click... There is big money in pharamaceuticals.

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    Hey Guys,

    Pharmacy My first affiliate love ...

    I remember when I was just starting to make sense of affiliate marketing about two years ago. At that time I had a bug up my @ss to figure out how someone with similar sites as mine (content sites) could make a few type a commerical sites link to them and make 10k a month, while I did the same thing linking to one or two of my own type a commerical sites and I made about a grand a month.

    I kept studying and then figured it out ... I was selling posters and cookware and making about $5 to $20 commissions a couple times a day as others I knew were making $20 - $50 per sale "linking to" merchants that sold prescriptions.

    At that point I said "cookware out" ....

    and "prescriptions in" ... I put my head down, purchased three domain names and worked for about 6 weeks straight about 3 hours a day in the evening after working 8 to 9 hours as a chef during the day. By the time I reached that 6 week site building streach my first pharma site had hit google and I was making one or two sales a day. Three weeks later I was making about a grand a month and well on my way.

    The money to be made in pharmacy is unreal, yes ... it is increadibly competative. If your just getting started in affiliate marketing the program I manage is good "training grounds" for pharmacy simply because your dealing with the same keywords, types of products and get the nice perks ...

    residuals ... reorders ... without the competative market. Sure we sell viagra like all the other guys but that does not mean you have to spend lots of your time marketing it ;-)

    When I got started with myrxforless.com I built about two sites, both sites focus on each drug ... one page per drug and it has worked well. The free 650+ template site also offers one page per drug and it is ranking very well in google.

    Now once your a bit more experianced with pharmacy you start to learn ways to "sneak in" I average prob 50 - 75 personal sales a day. I work for all the "good companies" ....

    I have a canadian site, a couple mexican sites and the rx medical type us sites. One of the things in favor of smart marketers is the vast amount of "words" used by people searching for drugs:

    buy
    order
    purchase
    canadian
    mexican
    order
    generic
    cheap
    low cost
    free shipping
    ect ....

    I could go on and one ... while trying to rank well for:

    buy viagra or buy phentermine is very ... very tricky I do know of tons of terms that are very easy to rank well for and they convert just as well ... the trick is to find many of these terms as people do not use them as often as "buy drug".

    So alot of people say pharmacy will prob go away or Brian Johnson will prob end up in jail.

    My lawyer tells me I am fine, I like to think of it this way ...

    You can not order ANY drugs from my sites, I simply link from my site to a merchant ...my lawyer tells me not too worry.

    I also hear people say that it does not make sense to spend time in the industry now because it will be gone "soon". I "agree" that it could very well .... change.

    But it is really anyone's guess WHEN it will change, I am working real hard now. Making all I can make in pharmacy today, if it last another 12 months I will be very happy with my decision to keep working and stave motivated. Even another 6 months would make sense.

    If and when it goes away I will simply start to market for other programs ... until then ... it's about pharmacy for me

    Cheers,

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    Make hay while the sun shines! Nice to hear from you Brian.

    I've followed Brian's progress from the beginning. You can rely on what he says.

    "If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself." Bob Hope

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    Hello, Brian,

    I agree with what you have posted, and I hope I didn't ruffle your feathers in your board.

    I started doing research into this whole thing last week, with many calls to pharmacies, Pfizer, DEA and the FDA. And my partner and I have had many discussions on this very subject.

    This whole thing is very interesting, once you get into it.

    Your lawyer is right. ... You are just linking to that site. But, if you advertise a drug that doesn't exist, like generic viagra in your site, that right there would shut you down. Just a tip I learned. The FDA has shut down sites for that very reason.

    Even Pfizer went after such sites!

    Another thing I was told is if you knowingly do business with a site that sells drugs, within the U.S., without a prescription, that, COULD, get you shut down. They weren't 100% sure on that.

    Many sites have you fill out a questioneer, with a "release" that they have you check off stating to the fact that you will follow your doctor's orders in taking the medicine. Many drug merchants think this is a loophole to get around that law. It isn't.

    We are considering jumping on board on your "tier" with myrxforless, but the thing that is holding us back is the fact that they sell "generic viagra." I have asked myself many times over: "If they dupe people like that, would they dupe their affiliates in paying them (reporting all sales that an affiliate has made for them)??? But then again, if you are having success with them, and you seem like an honest person, perhaps they aren't. I just don't know.

    Another concern is that it is coming from Mexico. Between the drugs being possibly held up by customs, and the quality of the said drugs, it makes one wonder.

    Anyway, I enjoyed your post, and good luck to you.

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    Hey Nobody ...

    You need to be sure about the people you work with, however I personally believe in ...

    innocent until proven guilty

    Just a day or two ago I posted to another affiliate board pertaining to an affiliate that has sent tons of visitors to a bunch of different merchants to only relize many of them are not:

    - paying affiliate
    - converting traffic
    - treating there business like a business
    - staying in comminication with affiliates

    I mentioned to this affiliate my personal method when trying to "search out" quality companies to work with online in this industry.

    My method is to join with say three or four company and test them all out for a while. Send "some" traffic and then see what happens.

    When you find a good company, that converts your traffic and is able to pay you on time you have a winner....

    When your able to do all of the above AND the company has good comminication you really have a winner on your hands!

    I will be honst ....

    You saying things like:

    "If they dupe people like that, would they dupe their affiliates in paying them (reporting all sales that an affiliate has made for them)???

    Sure you say I seam like a great guy and all ... but you still mention it. You have to either decide to give it a try or sit it out. But to sit on the sidelines and "mention" your worried about us paying you sadens me ...

    Heck ... I don't even know YOUR name!

    Nobody??

    I will post about generic viagra soon .... dinner is on the table.

    Cheers,

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    I would give you my name, but Haiko would kick me off again. LMAO!

    I've been a baaaaaad boy.

    Thanks, again, Brian.

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    Got a letter in my inbox google now asking all
    pharmacys and affiliates to registered with square trade and you have to pay $50.00 a month. Whats up with that?

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    I was accepted a while ago into a prescription drug affiliate program. I've been sitting on it for a few weeks now after reading somewhere that several other programs had been shut down and now search engines are starting to ban online pharmacies with a few more about to follow the same path. I don't know if they are all ppc or search engines or a combination of both, but this would definitely hurt the industry big time.

    The last thing I want to do is get sued because somebody died from a product they found on one of my sites, or get shut down a few weeks/months after I start promoting it. I know you can't control what other people do or say to get what they want, but I couldn't live with myself if someone died from a prescription drug I indirectly sold them.

    So I'm sitting on this "gold mine", not sure what to do with it. I really have mixed feelings about going all out to promote this kind of stuff. Morals/ethics versus money?

    Catwoman

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    I just signed up at online-scripts and their program seems pretty good so far I signed up yesterday and I already have a few orders. I took the liberty of contacting their affiliate manager to see If there would be any problem with me switching payment plans because they have 2 later on if I wanted to and he responded back pretty quick with "No Problem" and he also let me know that anytime that I need marketing tips to just send him an email and He will give me a few. So if anyone need a good marketing tip his email is [REMOVED] so definately hit him up if any one needs help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleScooter
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    Yep, it's merific!! See yesterdays leading post to this one http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread...945#post427945
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    Dumb question: How does one well ion drugs online? Specifically, how does one verify the ion?

    I imagine there may be legitimate online pharmacies, I just can't envision how they work. And sadly there are so many illegitimate and often blatantly illegal "pharmacies" online that it's rather given the whole segment a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FourthWorld
    Dumb question: How does one well ion drugs online? Specifically, how does one verify the ion?

    I imagine there may be legitimate online pharmacies, I just can't envision how they work. And sadly there are so many illegitimate and often blatantly illegal "pharmacies" online that it's rather given the whole segment a bad name.
    Timely as it may be, I saw this today on Yahoo. Also, in Daytona Beach, Florida a company that sells drugs online got raided by the FBI yesterday.

    I have seen these companies that sell presc. drugs online. They do a "medical consultation" online. It consists of a page asking you questions and you click the appropriate button to answer. The buttons default to the answers you need to select to qualify for the ion.

    Put them in the same basket with fake Gucci and Rolex distributors and pay day loans as far as I am concerned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FourthWorld
    Dumb question: How does one well ion drugs online? Specifically, how does one verify the ion?

    I imagine there may be legitimate online pharmacies, I just can't envision how they work. And sadly there are so many illegitimate and often blatantly illegal "pharmacies" online that it's rather given the whole segment a bad name.
    Not to mention many States are implementing legistlation forbidding and/or restricting what ions can/can't be sent across their borders. I personally think that the risks involved in marketing this sector to be of "high risk". I also think it requires constant alertness to "how you market online ions" without putting your own site in the legal liability cross hairs as legislation is enacted. I know that there are a few here that probably do well with ions, but I won't venture in this area because of the constant/possible issues.
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