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    Hello all,


    Brand new back in December, I posted a "How do I get started" message and got some good replies. Since, then I lurk among the posts on these forums and continue to learn. -Even though I don't post very often, I feel like I "know" most of you regulars. Now I have more questions.

    I started a few sites and have one site that I am really pouring my energy into. I have made a few sales (had a couple of reversals -- GRRR!) and have made a few bucks from Adsense. Overall, I think I am doing ok for just a few months online.

    I have been adding pages with targeted keywords. I get a top 10, top 20 Yahoo listing on many of them and even have a couple of keywords appear twice in the top 5! I do ok on Google. As I add pages, I do see an increase in traffic, but my CTR is the same as when I had fewer pages (about 4% - 5%) and I still have very low conversions. Did I mention "VERY" low?

    So.....
    What do I do next? More traffic is great, but useless if it doesn't convert. It stands to reason that if my CTR is the same with more pages, then I am wasting time by adding more pages if that CTR results in $0.00. Should I continue to create pages for this site? (It's NOT a mall type site, but a theme site.)

    Once of the suggestions back in December was to build more than one site -- 8 of 10 of them would not produce much, but 1 or 2 might do well. Ok, so are we talking about new sites with new themes and a new niche? Or a refocused site similar to the one I already have?

    About keywords, I use Wordtracker and I use Overture. Can you give me your personal suggestion as to the best method to research and "qualify" good keywords? (Yes, I know -- this is different for everyone and perhaps for each niche...I just need some suggestions.)

    Wow, I see your posts about getting daily sales -- I am holding on for that day. I have been working my tail off, and then working even more to try to learn what I need to know. I have the drive and committment, I just need some direction on how I should focus my energy.

    There have been days when I just don't think this is going to work, and others where I think I must be making mistakes with my site, and others still where I just tell myself to quit thinking, keep working, and be patient.

    All I can say is thank God for the local Starbucks. They get worried if I miss a day!
    - I am not young enough to know everything

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    regarding the fact that different search engines send traffic according to how they rate your site, you might build some differing niche sites to see what they attract. Don't have to have a lot of pages at first.

    Try pushing products that are not mainstream. I think too many try to sell cel phones and the like. Can be too competitive.

    others here can advise much more.

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    KM,

    It's is good to know that I am not the only person in Houston on this board who is wondering which way to turn next.

    It sounds like we are in the same boat, I feel like some days I row and row and row only to find out I am going in a big circle. LOL

    Send me an email and maybe I'll meet you at a Starbuck's sometime and we can cry in our coffee together. Till then I keep finding products and keep adding pages.

    BTW if you find out the answer of what to do next will you share it? If you don't mind. Best of luck.

    Spider Man
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    Hopefully one day making a living on the web.

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    When starting out choose to theme your shopping site around niche' merchants ...or niche' sections of established merchants who convert. Remember your SE keyword listing leads a shopper to a landing page...not a web site. You don't need the initial expense of hosting a domain for each niche' merchant. You just need to built a niche section on an existing domain to showcase a merchant's products and link internally to it.

    Secret sauce to immediate sales is to KNOW upfront that merchant tracks sales and average a minimum of 1 sale per 100 clicks regardless of traffic source. I'd recommend www.suspenders.com/affiliate.htm but you have to go through Charlie's checklist to get accepted
    Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie

    "What have you done today to put real value into a referral click...from a shoppers viewpoint!"

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    Howdy from just north of Houston

    Sometimes a new slant on a niche site can make the difference. I did not want to go build yet another site, so I started looking at the old ones to see what could be expanded on.

    One good tool for finding what Google thinks goes with what is this:

    http://labs.google.com/sets

    Type in a few keywords and see what comes up.
    Ebudae


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    - Herb -- Thanks. I think the non-mainstream is a good way to go....I definitely want to stay away from highly competitive areas.

    - Spider -- re: rowing, yea -- give me the 2nd oar. At least we are in a circle and not in the middle of nowhere without a map.

    - Ecom -- thanks for the good advice.

    - Ebudae -- (seems to be a lot of H-towners on this board) Thanks for the link -- nice tool!

    I appreciate all of your replies!
    - I am not young enough to know everything

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    KM,

    this board is the map, just keep following it.
    we need an h-town ABW meeting kinda like the one they just did in Vegas. Just no casino's, that takes all the fun out.

    Spider Man

    If you find the second oar holler.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spider Man:
    KM,

    this board is the map, just keep following it.
    we need an h-town ABW meeting kinda like the one they just did in Vegas. Just no casino's, that takes all the fun out.

    Spider Man

    If you find the second oar holler. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Im in if we do have a get together. I am currently in California however I am often in the Sugar Land area visting my mom. I love Houston. Sorry about the crappy weather you guys are having lately. It's only gonna get worse once that humidity picks up.

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    Prophet,

    There is no when the humidity gets here. I was out early this morning and it's like walking around in a sauna.

    Would love to be in Cali right about now. Any kind of breeze would be nice.

    Later,

    Spider Man

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    Yeah it's great here right now. About 80 degrees and a slight off shore breeze. The worst moment about coming to visit is when you step off the plane and you just feel the humidity.

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    Glad to see someone else in the same boat. The forum has some very good members, willing to help us, and those with the nasty
    attitude, they only show their ignorance. We learn a lot here,
    and that's my nickles worth.
    jj

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