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    Three Months And No Private Forum?
    I was going to post this in the old thread, but there was a "bump" warning at the bottom. Plus, I really don't want to reopen a discussion/debate that I thought had already been resolved.

    Therefore, I started this new thread to ask a few simple questions and make a few innocent comments.

    It has been nearly 3 months since we were told a private adult forum was being added. It has been about 7 months since Michael first brought this topic up.

    Is the private forum here and I am just unaware of it? Three months is a long time when other private forums have been put up within hours or days.

    Has the plan for the private forum been ditched? If so, that is sad that we were misled into believing progress was coming to ABW to further grow this industry and this forum to bring it into the year 2011.

    I really don't want to reignite the debate. I thought that was over with.

    However, recent events in the forum have led me to believe that maybe no private forum is coming, because we can now discuss topics openly and maturely in the public forum that involve affiliate marketing, including those topics consided "adult" by some.

    Just looking for an update, as I am sure other members are.

    Thank you for your time.

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    Hi

    I have not seen it and am not aware of it, I have not seen any on going discussion on the topic either.

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    It's quite a bit more involved than just setting up a separate sub-forum.

    There are two technical issues (that I know of) that need to be addressed by the Dev team before we can move forward:

    1) Segregating of ad serving between the adult private forum and the rest of the site, and
    2) Age authentication.

    The Dev team has a large backlog of tasks, not only from ABW but from iNET's other communities as well. I know I have several things that I requested over a year ago.

    We'll get there. Just have patience.
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    2) Age authentication.
    Why would this be necessary? We're not talking about a porn forum here, so there should be no "legal age" issue. Why is there no perceived need for this in order to allow discussion of beer making kits, wine merchants, etc?
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    "I know I have several things that I requested over a year ago."

    So you have things still not handled that you requested over a year ago? And I'm pretty sure this one isn't going to jump ahead of the line, so we're looking at 3-5 years?

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    I don't set the priorities, but I sincerely doubt it will take that long. I know that iNET was looking at the requirements as recently as November, but everyone has been pretty busy over the holidays. I fully expect it to happen sometime this year.

    Yes, some of my larger requests have been in the queue for over a year: Thread Wikis, Keyword Alerts, Search Enhancements, etc.
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    I agree that we do not currently have age authentication so wouldn't need it for that private forum. There are several mods who said they would handle the moderation of the forum and can handle the opt-in as well.

    Also it is not necessary to offer adult banners to open the forum. That can follow when iNet has it ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick View Post

    Also it is not necessary to offer adult banners to open the forum. That can follow when iNet has it ready.
    I thought the point was to keep some regular ads out of the adult forum, not just the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Hoffman Consulting View Post
    I thought the point was to keep some regular ads out of the adult forum, not just the other way around.
    Exactly.
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    ? Then you just don't put regular ads there. How is that even a problem?

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    The templates are currently site-wide, so without some changes the banners would run there.
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    So...

    I reckon ABW will finally move forward and come into the year 2011 sometime around the year 2015.

    Hmmm... The hypocrisy of some that are working against this amazes me.

    Actually, there isn't any good reason why this private forum couldn't be set up almost immediately and the more technical issues handled at a later date.

    Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey View Post
    The templates are currently site-wide, so without some changes the banners would run there.
    I'm seeing something completely different. Right now in this section I see the big 728 ad I guess is on some rotation script or something but it's not sitewide. I see forums like the CJ section with nothing whatsoever. I see subforums with their own headers. It's just code. Pick what ads you want to show in the private section and put the code in.
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    ABW is dying a slow, sad death

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    It's changing, but certainly not dying. We've seen a lot of growth and maturity in the past 15 months.
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    This project was moved to the front of the development queue about a week ago and barring any unexpected circumstances, the forum should be live sometime in the next couple weeks.

    As an interim solution to the banner-segregation issue, the private sub-forum will be banner free. iNet will evaluate sales opportunities at a future time, but the priority right now is to get it up without offending current advertisers.

    It will be a private opt-in sub-forum (potentially with other sub-forums under it in the future) and there will be a warning splash page and terms to accept to get access.

    Moderators will be able to choose whether they want access there or not. We feel we have enough moderator support.

    Once the sub-forum is set up and members have joined, those members will be able to set the restrictions and scope for the content of the sub-forum, as long as those restrictions and scope do not run afoul of decency laws or promote services that are illegal.

    Outside of this sub-forum (signatures, advertising, Introduce Yourself, etc.), nothing will change. The content of the private forum is to be kept there out of respect for those who do not want to be exposed to it.
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    as long as those restrictions and scope do not run afoul of decency laws
    That would rule out any residents of the state of Alabama then, wouldn't it?

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    Just a question, will this Private Forum be indexed by Google/Bing?? My thought it would be a good idea to try to prevent this form from being index and displayed in Google search results.

    fyi, I have no plans on using this Private Fourm or do I have any problem with it being setup at ABW. I would just like to keep the spammers away from ABW if possible...
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    No, it will not be indexed. Only those who opt in will see it. Anyone not opted in (or not logged on, like a search engine spider) would not see it.
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    Great, thanks Michael..........
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    The adult forum is launched!

    Members who want to participate can join here: Group Memberships

    Once joined, the forum will be listed in the list of Private Forums: Non-Mainstream Affiliate Marketing.

    Sorry it took so long, but one of the technical requirements (age verification) proved to be a challenge and we ended up deciding to just go forward without it.
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey View Post
    This project was moved to the front of the development queue about a week ago and barring any unexpected circumstances, the forum should be live sometime in the next couple weeks.

    As an interim solution to the banner-segregation issue, the private sub-forum will be banner free. iNet will evaluate sales opportunities at a future time, but the priority right now is to get it up without offending current advertisers.

    It will be a private opt-in sub-forum (potentially with other sub-forums under it in the future) and there will be a warning splash page and terms to accept to get access.

    Moderators will be able to choose whether they want access there or not. We feel we have enough moderator support.

    Once the sub-forum is set up and members have joined, those members will be able to set the restrictions and scope for the content of the sub-forum, as long as those restrictions and scope do not run afoul of decency laws or promote services that are illegal.

    Outside of this sub-forum (signatures, advertising, Introduce Yourself, etc.), nothing will change. The content of the private forum is to be kept there out of respect for those who do not want to be exposed to it.
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