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    Affiliate Manager Micker's Avatar
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    Publisher Identity Blackmarket
    Is anyone else running into this.

    I've talked with two clients in two days that are getting hit by fraudulent Chinese publishers.

    It seems that they are paying Americans to apply for entry into their affiliate networks. They have been coached on how to answer the screening questions, submit w9's and seem legit.

    Then apparently they sell their account to a pub in China who proceeds to drive some shady traffic.

    The commission check is mailed to John Doe with a US address and it comes back endorsed with a different name from a bank in China.

    Is anyone else seeing this?
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    This is common in the Lead Gen space.

    In my experience addresses tend to be from CA & TX

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    So how are people keeping these pubs out now?
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    • Are these being sent to legitimate residential addresses, or are they "mail drop" (private mail box, PMB) addresses? Screening for PMB addresses might help.
    • Can you check whether the Taxpayer ID Numbers being used are valid and match the name on the application?
    • Consider using a phone screen for new apps (probably selectively).
    • Don't rely on the phone number listed in the app -- check directory assistance. These might be forged (identity theft).
    • Add aggressive language to your app regarding "fraud" -- noting that persons receiving funds fraudulently can be prosecuted, and a US participant in an international scheme can be held liable for 100% of all losses caused by unreachable co-conspirators.
    • Consider using direct-deposit exclusively -- no printed checks.
    • Look at your terms & conditions to make certain that you've clearly prohibited the conduct specified here.

    IANAL
    Last edited by markwelch; April 6th, 2011 at 11:40 AM.

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    @Mark

    The Taxpayer ID numbers are real, they have phone screening in place for all new apps. They did screen for Mail Drops and Google Voice Numbers, not sure if they used directory assistance or not.

    I'll have to look at their T&C's might be hard to forbid someone from selling their company and holding the old owner liable for the actions of the new. I guess that's why lawyers make the big bucks.

    As for the Direct Deposit side of the house and Address Screening - That's why they came to us. We Combine the payment side of the house with the ID and address verification.

    I was wondering if they were missing anything, but it looks like they were doing all the right things.
    Last edited by Micker; April 7th, 2011 at 01:38 PM.
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