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    Niche (?) Question
    Hi,

    The "niche" that i'm interested in is debt free/ low cost living, i'm not sure if that is even considered a niche or if that is still too broad, but thats what i'm interested in and have a lot to offer as far as content is concerned..

    I wanted to find out before i threw a whole bunch of time and effort into building a site around this idea, and figured you guys would be able to answer the question best:

    on a scale of 1-10, one being not so many and ten being a freakin ton of people, how many marketers would you say pursue their affiliate activities based on this idea?

    any responses much appreciated,

    Ryan

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    You mean to say, marketers that pursue their affiliate activities using debt/free low cost living as a niche?

    If this is the case I would check to see, which merchants exist who cater to this specific niche and then check out their numbers. This should give you a little bit of an idea of activity.

    In addition, I'd use google to my fullest advantage here. Searching high and low for competitors in this specific niche.

    In my opinion, I believe you can make a niche out of anything that would warrant an audience. Debt free/low cost living certainly sounds like something people would be interested in learning more about.

    Another thought... You should think about how you can turn this specific niche into an endless niche, so that you can always come up with fresh ideas to keep you audience interested and coming back.
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    Dave Ramsey seems to have built quite the successful empire on that niche. So, it's definitely something that could garner a great deal of interest.

    I would be worried about the types of programs/products that would most fit it. So many of the debt reduction services are outright thieves and you might need to walk a delicate line about giving financial or legal advice.

    Olga's advice is spot on about researching how to monetize before you start. That's a lesson I learned the hard way.

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    Spoke with Dave Ramsey's Senior VP a few years ago about launching an affiliate program. Dave put a stop to it as he felt he owned the space. I am a regular listener and like his recommendations. They had an in-house affiliate tracking system and you will need to contact them directly to get accepted. They were interested in getting some content affiliates into their program.

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    thank you for the responses so far, I'm well read on Dave Ramsey, and i agree he has great insights, but in addition to the "this is what you need to do to get out of debt" side of the idea, i'm also interested in looking at a lot of "well when you find yourself in this situation you should be looking for (buying) 'this' instead 'that' " or "if you need _______ then here is a great resource that you could use to get what you are looking for" and support all of those scenarios with facts and information as well as personal experiences...

    I feel like that i could build a really good quality site based on those ideas, rather than on making a site and saying "hey this is what you gotta do to get out of debt, and then feed them testomonials and stories about all the different books and systems that have been written on the topic.. does my approach sound viable?

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    Ryan,

    Please feel free to reach out to me. I actually may have something that you would be interested in.
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    There's a lot of successful "mommy blogs" that talk about how to run a household on a shoestring. Approaching things from the male point of view might help you to carve out a new niche.

    It almost sounds like you are going to offer ways to successfully run a household on a budget rather than a 'debt site'. It might be better if you stay away from the debt side of things entirely. There's so much snake oil in that niche that I avoid any site with that topic like the plague.

    Good luck!

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    There are a slew of debt consolidation programs and lots of pitfalls with them. You could review then and recommend the ones that are above board. Not sure if they have affiliate programs. There are also programs that provide legal documents for bankruptcy, estates and wills. Check Commission Junction as I managed one before there.

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    Yes what i plan to do has n o t h i n g to do with debt consolidation programs or "erase all of your debt overnight" schemes or even legit books (like Dave Ramsey's)

    The good thing is that you say content is king, the bad thing is i have so much that i want to put out there that i've kind of made my head spin trying get it all out of me and into my computer, and then further more when i sit down and try to organize everything so that i can really start focusing on how i'm going to use it to monetize my site

    Olga, the program you run is already on my radar :P but i'm very time limited on a daily basis so i'm just working on this when i have a little extra time and sadly i'm not far enough along that I think I can take advantage of that opportunity yet

    Unfortunately i go through periods of being discouraged by looking at the most glaring obstacles:

    A. just building a website in general, having very limited html/ css / anything else that you can learn about at w3schools.com knowledge, but i'm really interested and working on it as i get the time, i don't want to use word press or something else that makes it easier but could limit what you can do with the site..

    B. SEO tactics once i have the sight finished, just swimming through all the advice i've found here about you can do

    C. Like i said above its really frustrating trying to sort out everything that i want to do with the site contentwise and determine how to get the best results with it

    D. Knowing that so many other people are already way ahead of me and know how to build sites and already have their content out there

    Despite all that i know that its still possible, i think i'm just now coming out of another one of those discouragement spells and wanted to make sure i'm heading in the right general direction..

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    Well Ryan, whenever you are ready to go... I am ready to help!

    Don't be discouraged! It takes a lot of hardwork and perseverance, but in the end it definitely all pays off!
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    This is a tough question to answer because as with anything in life it takes all kinds. On a scale I would say a solid five, because it basically has to do with where you start and how. If you are already proficient in SEO and are familiar with Search marketing then you will have to narrow a niche down for your traffic based on the keyword or words - more niche reliant. On the other hand, you can look at mailers who use their list / traffic to dictate what types of offers or niches they choose to explore. Different ISPs usually garner different interests like AOL are typically an older bunch, or gmail is usually more professional etc. I have tons of these kinds of special cases in my mind. It all comes down to types of traffic, that dictates niches and so on. What you do with that information is up to you, but success has been seen both directions...so a 5 it is!

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    B. SEO tactics once i have the sight finished, just swimming through all the advice i've found here about you can do
    Write for the reader, don't worry about keyword stuffing if you are writing content. make sure your navigation are text links and you have a site map. Top content affiliates I work with don't game their system for the search engines. They write excellent reviews, have vanilla navigation and high ranking.

    D. Knowing that so many other people are already way ahead of me and know how to build sites and already have their content out there
    Get over this, if you have the knowledge and are a good writer you can out perform the 1000's of garbage sites out there. Google Panda dumped tons of them from the SERPs as its looking for good content.

    Despite all that i know that its still possible, i think i'm just now coming out of another one of those discouragement spells and wanted to make sure i'm heading in the right general direction..
    You have paralysis of analysis! Look up "mind map", learn it and use it. It will help you get the most important information created first. Approach this as a hobby, the enjoyment of writing information that people need. The rest will follow.

    Don't discount a WordPress blog as a means to get started, you can always change to a website later: http://www.abestweb.com/forums/blogg...ight=wordpress

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    According to Google search, there are mre than 198,000,000 indexed pages contain "low cost living" and 74,800,000 indexed pages contain "debt free", so I would give it a 9.

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    This is a tough niche to get into because it almost is a primary target for newcomers just analyzing the general consumer base. Same type of things happens with social media and the dating niche - with debt, financial, etc... you have to have a real solid long term plan and solid traffic.

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    What the previous posters have said. Not something I would get into myself, very competitive. Which has me thinking about how people define niche. For me, I like to try to find some not so competitive niches. They're pretty easy to rank for. If I can find a .com that might get in low x,xxx exact match, I've really had no trouble ranking all day long on stuff like that. Sometimes without even any links in or one here and there.

    But then you also said - "a lot to offer as far as content is concerned" If you're sort of an expert in something, make one of the top sites in that category, you might be considered a source type site, which usually garners some nice one way links and eventually nice rankings.

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    If you have a lot to offer, a strong voice and can really put value onto the page, do that first. As Chuck said, the rest will follow. It's not hard to monetize a good site.

    If you think but aren't sure you have a lot to write about, passed high school English slightly ahead of the curve and can reasonably persuade visitors to click your links, you can probably make some money off the site, but a mediocre site is going to feel more like work at the end of the day.
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    I think you will encounter a huge amount of well established competition with your niche and will probably need a healthy advertising budget if you want to compete with them.

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    Trying to get traffic (lol) to a new thread i started in the Blogging forum, inquiry about benefits/disadvantages of using Wordpress, any responses would be most appreciated

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