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    I hate those stupid Morons in CJ who thought themselves very smart in affiliate marketing and simply reject ones' application.

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    Amen to that. They are so concerned with measuring their performance by EPC that they lose out on sales.

    I have said it before and I will say it again: I would much rather have an EPC of $5.00 and sales of $100,000 a month than an EPC of $50.00 and sales of $50,000 a month.

    The only affiliates I have rejected since taking over Dotster's program were those trying to use stolen credit cards through their own links (not affiliates who refer customers that use stolen cards, but those that use stolen cards themselves).

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    Ya stupid EPC.

    I want to start a new site in a new field and I have told them I do well with my old site with EPC $188 but they still reject me!

    Can't we start from zero?!?!

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    I reject sites that are just slapped together simply because we have had a lot of scammers in CJ recently.

    CJ has been fantastic with dealing with them I might add. Both in calling them up and using ask a question I have had problems dealt with quickly and professionaly.

    Daniel Fink
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    I am at the point where I say screw it. I applied to a skateboard merchant, rejected very shortly after, no e mail, no explanation nothing.
    Why they even get into online marketing is beyond me. If they think auto rejections and no contact with a publisher who generated sales with others isnt even deemed the courtesy of a mere e mail or internal CJ mail about why they are being rejected can go back and stick their heads back up their a$$. Many others who look at business as a means to generate sales and income would more than welcome my sales and application with open arms.

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    Talk about lienent....Dotster.."The only affiliates I have rejected since taking over Dotster's program were those trying to use stolen credit cards through their own links (not affiliates who refer customers that use stolen cards, but those that use stolen cards themselves)."

    Charlie ...

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    I can be so lenient as we aren't a high visibility merchant and a target of scammers, pornos and hate sites.

    It also helps that we know our costs of sale down to the cent so I structure commissions and bonuses so that at the very worst we break even on every sale.

    I do have a couple of successful affiliates who are getting close to the edge with some of their PPC keyword choices but I haven't taken action yet: My yardstick is "are they bringing us visitors who wouldn't have found us otherwise?".

    My other rule of thumb is that I would rather have the smart ones thinking of creative ways to send traffic to us that to our competitors.

    I did leave out one group rfom my statement about who I banned, and they are worse than credit card fraudsters: parasiteware vendors, I ban every one of those I can find!



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    quote:
    Originally posted by FreeDebtConsolidation:
    I reject sites that are just slapped together simply because we have had a lot of scammers in CJ recently.

    CJ has been fantastic with dealing with them I might add. Both in calling them up and using ask a question I have had problems dealt with quickly and professionaly.

    Daniel Fink
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    I would like to comment a bit one what you say.

    1. Everywhere will have scammers but I don't think they will be more than those GOOD publishers. If they rules, CJ wouldn't have become the #1 preferred affiliate site.

    2. You sure have lots of publishers who send you lots of sales. Isn't them more than those who try to cheat. And isn't them the 'good boys' out there?

    3. I don't care if you drop a publisher later after you allowed him to join your program for some time. But I am unhappy with those advertiser who doesn't give us a chance. There are just too many 'doing the things right' publishers. You disapprove them just because of a few scammers? Isn't it unfair.

    4. Advertiser reject a publisher with 1 click. And we will receive a TEMPLATE email. Saying it is nothing wrong about our site but the advertiser have the right to choose their publisher and other non-sense. Come on, I am tired of reading the same TEMPLATE message, can't you guys type a few line telling us what is the exact reason we are being rejected?

    Is it because you don't like my site? Is it because my EPC is not good? Or is it because you hate my country? Is it because you just hate we when you see my application?

    And I hate it when I can't contact those affiliate managers and talk on it.

    I am just like walleye warrior now, who has come to a point who says SCREW IT.

    Mark, it is great to know that you are good to your publishers! But there are just too little admin like you to day.

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    well i have a baby name site, and got rejected from "baby bazaar", straight away, and the new one "motherwear"
    which seems pretty stupid to me, as i am on the $$$$ earnings, but their loss, when they come begging, i will show them the door!!!

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    It is quite upset when you have prepare something and end up the most important part - advertiser review is disapproved.

    This make it more difficult to us. If we have put lots of effor on it and the end up being rejected by the advertiser!

    Also, last time they say those advertiser with low EPC are morons because they reject more publishers. Now the advertiser with high EPC are morons too! and reject the publishers ... huh, I wonder does anybody join CJ happily and end up being rejected by all advertisers.

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    The more I look at some others similar feelings, I back tracked, basically to let them know more actions than an auto reject may be better suited to the program.
    I sent the merchant an email with the link to this post. It is up to them now to do something about it if they want to.
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    I understand that your upset, I never said anywhere that CJ was the only one that has scammers =) I also mentioned how fantastic they were with dealing with them.

    Secondly, If I do happen to reject your site and you send me an email that nicely asks why, I will go back an activate you. Not all AM's are uncommunicative, I respond to every email I get within minutes of knowing its there and I check CJ constantly throughout the day.

    Lastly, I have no idea why you are attacking me am I the one that rejected you? All I said was that I reject scam sites.....

    Daniel Fink
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    Hey Daniel.
    First off I think the use of moron is overblowing things to describe the real issues.
    I don't know if you should even be lumped into this thread in all fairness. My own feelings, and others who have discussed this issue at ABW in the past are not with the pro active members in here who have helped us just by their presence in here, but some programs which are left on a sort of twilight zone type of auto pilot. I look at this as a business where I prefer to work with merchants and programs which will work with us, answer e mails, and try to help us as best they can with the direct result creating more sales for the merchant. I believe more beefs are aired by people on ridiculous auto rejects, no contact from a merchant, removal from programs for some really incredibly ridiculous reasons. There are instances I email rejected places if I feel it may be in everyones best interests. I end up grovelling on about it is a world wide web and not US only if I feel I may have been rejected since I happen to live in the country right beside yours. It wuld be much easier if some programs were a bit more realistic.

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    Hi Daniel,

    It is not you that reject me since I didn't join your program. Sorry for my words if it sounds like attacking you. I am not.

    I applied 7 programs and 6 is rejected. Feel quite happy when I found 1 is accepted. At least my spending on the domain and host are still worth it with 1 advertiser! And I emailed the AM to thank him for giving me a try.

    For the word 'Morons', I actuallty learned it from another people who post a similar topic few weeks ago. And it end up few weeks later I experience the same like him.

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    Thanks guys,
    I just wanted to make sure because I am and will continue to be a proactive AM in the community. I try to do anything I can for affiliates since they are a large reason as to why we are here. I'm glad you got accepted to a program redfish =)

    Daniel Fink
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    More amazing is that these same AM's bend over for a BHO parasite affiliate. Those guys have a S/W application that allows sales to be funnelled from any web page in the world via a non-domain bound popup....LOL

    Charlie ...

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    quote:
    I hate those stupid Morons in CJ who thought themselves very smart in affiliate marketing and simply reject ones' application.


    I dislike them as well, but then there is a bright side.. All the notices I get about a merchant being deactivated are always for merchants that rejected my application on auto.. you might have just saved yourself a lot of time putting their links up.

    Some AM's are also starting to get smarter.. one AM at another network just removed a bunch of filters, including the filter that auto-rejects those from other countries.. Previously they auto rejected a lot of sites and stated outright that they wouldn't work with those outside the US. In the end it cost them a lot more above their standard commish rate to attract one formerly rejected affiliate into their program .

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    Hey Redfish, try selling domain names, I promise not ot reject you ;-)

    TK: Good points: I used to review non-us people adn it was mostly a waste of time, I learnt my lesson and now I give everyone a chance. The only complaints I get are from people from countries that CJ wont let sign up (e.g. Turkey).

    Mark......

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    Maybe, they reject you because you're not an affiliate marketeer. You're a search engine spammer!

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    Mark,

    I would consider that!

    Can you show us some numbers (or PM me) how many sales do you super affiliates make?

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    Sam Bay,

    Do you write in the CJ profile you are a spammer?

    I am not an affiliate marketer, I am an AFFILIATE MASTER!

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    quote:
    Maybe, they reject you because you're not an affiliate marketeer. You're a search engine spammer!


    Is there a point to posting junk like this (unless it has one of these attached and is written as a joke).. You need to lighten up sambay..

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    Has anybody signed up for the new yahoo personal's program in CJ? Just curious if they are auto rejecting for any reason, or they just think I suck.

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    gball, they rejected you?

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    How about the affiliate partner that applies to a program and then doesn't respond to the email sent out by the AM asking for some more details?
    If I am not able to determine how a site will be promoting our program I will send a personal email asking for some additional information. At least 85% of the emails that I send out, asking for some general information, go unanswered. I am guessing that their inboxes are flooded with email and they just can't responds to all of them. My question to you is what would get you to open the email? When I send out these inquiries I put "Regarding your affiliate application" in the subject line.

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