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    Utah lawmakers aim to resolve online sales-tax issue
    This one strikes close to home but figured it was a matter of time. With Overstock headquartered here I figure this will drag out. I better talk to Lou and see what they did in the first round in Florida?

    Utah lawmakers aim to resolve online sales-tax issue

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    Think like a politician
    The key is to look at this as if it were a sales and marketing campaign. Your target market has to be identified. This would be legislators that serve on relevant committees such as tax policy, commerce, etc. Once identified, research the hell out of them. Know everything you can about them, especially their voting records. Try to identify legislators that may have family members connected in some way to performance marketing. From that you will be able to rank them from the most likely to favor your position to the most likely to oppose. Divide them into three camps: Favorable, Unfavorable and Undecided (Middlers). Draft three letters constructed to appeal to each group and which clearly and succinctly state your position WITH 3-5 directly applicable evidentiary facts such as other states' negative experience, etc. Don't forget the leadership. Court them individually. They determine what legislation goes where and when. They can make a bill happen or make sure that it never sees the light of day.

    Identify all constituent parties and individuals who are willing to send these letters, or a form thereof, to their representatives and State Senators (concurrent bills are often introduced in each house). Assemble that database and like MLM get the core to idendify others who are willing to support your position and sign up with email addresses.
    Start a Facebook page and other social media presence. Post activity updates, not just what the legislators do and say but what you are doing to advance your position.

    Make sure that you give your troops the weapons and ammunition they need to carry the fight. This is information. Not just what's happening in Utah but what is happening elsewhere that can support your position.

    Contact legislators from other states that have delt with or are dealing with this issue. Find the ones whose position supports you and use what they have said publicly or are willing to speak and allow you to attribute as positive statements for your position. Find out if they are willing to provide you any supporting documentation that they felt was important to them in forming their position. You may have to try to locate local constituents in those states to help you in this effort.

    Lastly, legislators need help to support your position. Provide copies of studies, articles, academic research etc. that can educate the legislator and give him the means to support and defend your position or neutralize the opposition. That is what lobbyists do and that is what legislators respond to. Also, try to provide solutions to the problem that they are trying to solve. The Internet marketing issue is about two major needs: the need for additional tax revenue and the desire to protect constituents that own bricks & mortar as well as local online businesses that have to pay tax (i.e. tax equality/parity). The problem is that e-commerce has rendered the ages old state sales tax form of taxation obsolete. The legislator in any state that successfully creates a viable substitute that becomes law will be that state's next Governor. Help them plant that seed and your future is assured. You may want to start with Huntsman. Fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget are his trademark, if I remember correctly. He might see the wisdom of replacing a regressive state sales tax with a progressive tax that is politically viable. He could help guide your efforts if you can get him to support you. Don't know how politically popular he is. Be part of their solution not just dealing with your problem.

    Here endeth the lesson.

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    Thanks Lou, we are activating our Rocky Mountain Affiliate Marketing Association and planning our direction during the next meeting. One thing Utah is know for is networking so we will pool resources and get to the right people.

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    Utah Tax
    The Good News and Bad news is Utah is required to have a balanced budget by law. That being said the legislators are always looking for more cash.

    At least we are not California with Billions in a deficit

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    We are rallying the troops to talk with the legislature: http://www.abestweb.com/forums/affil...up-153451.html

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    Rep. Wayne Harper, R-West Jordan will be meeting with us at the Capital. http://le.utah.gov/house2/detail.jsp?i=HARPEWA

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    Got this response from Rep. Wayne Harper:

    HBO 385 is in committee.

    The nexus bill is not yet drafted.

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    The Utah Technology Council had a Legislative Meet & Greet today at the Capitol Rotunda. About a dozen of us were able to talk with State Representative Wayne Harper (R) West Jordan. Wayne assured us that the bill is not an affiliate tax nexus and is meant for another kind of affiliate. He said it only effects physical store sales and not online. His example was that Cabellas that has a local store rents kiosk space to 3rd party merchants. Those merchants are saying that they are not located in the state so are not collecting local sales tax for physical sales made in the store. This can be extended to shopping malls, etc. He went on to say that the bill does not effect online sales made by via server or if a company had a distribution center.

    Here is the bill that was filed Saturday:

    H.B. 384
    Sales and Use Tax Seller Nexus Amendments -- Harper, W.
    H.B. 384 Bill Documents - 2012 General Session

    For those interested please read and give your opinion. Thank you to the members of RMAMA and Jessica for providing the information.

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    Got this sent to me with agrees with what we learned at the Capital in February.

    UTAH DID NOT PASS AN AFFILIATE NEXUS TAX LAW!

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    Well done, Utah!

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