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    Post Google Penguin [Out Of The Park Kick] How To Be Safe From It!
    Recent Google Penguin update quaked many websites base, personally I've been monitoring the effect of Penguin on some highly traffic websites and was shocked to see the impact of sites effected with Penguin. HelpingWebmasters.com is a forum who's PR was 4 before the update slapped it to 0 PR.

    According to Google this update will be targeting low quality back links of a website including over optimization, so how to figure out weather a site has low quality back links or it's over optimized?

    Any of you guys noticed the same traffic downage or up rate in any of the major sites?

    Kindly share your ideas on how to prevent this damage.

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    I thought I had been hit by Penguin, ends up I had other things going on.

    If you're a G WMT & Analytics user(or what ever analytics you use) I'd highly recommend digging into your data to see exactly how you've been hit. The negative effects were reported to have hit on April 24th. If this isn't when it happened you need to look at other causes. e.g. Panda 3.5 was on the 19th.

    From what I've read most sites that have been effected by Penguin have spammy things going on, like; title tags with words repeated(Blue Widgets | Cheap Blue Widgets), very poor quality content and/or several pages of very similar content, low quality backlinks - especially those with identical anchor text.

    I wouldn't spend any time worrying about what my PR is, as it doesn't convert into affiliate sales and is a very minor part of ranking. It's also been so unstable in the past that it shouldn't be the determining factor to decide if you've been affected by Penguin.

    It's really scary that G would empower people to use Blackhat tactics to eliminate their competitors. How soon until we here about major companies doing this type of thing?

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    Agree WMT contains very good info about our sites - personally, I've had issues with Google since January, which is pre-Penguin (poorly coded navigation links caused numerous duplicate URLs), but this algo update has been a disaster for some search results.

    I've been reporting web spam to G on a daily basis - for example, yesterday a brand search brought up seven URLs in the top 20 that ALL redirect to the same replica handbag website. For example (not real links):

    crap.si?page_name=Brand+Online+Shop&id=1234
    junk.info?page_name=Brand+Online+Shop&id=1456
    unrelated.com?page_name=Brand+Online+Shop&id=1456

    All of the above redirect to the SAME primary URL - a replica purse store. And seven are in the top 20.

    I don't know how legitimate sites can compete here - they used to say build your site for readers, not search engines, but I just don't think this is true anymore.

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    I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I have been struggling with a penalty brought on by a small number of articles that I wrote 4 years ago. This makes me less than objective about this recent update. It has turned many us (unwittingly) into black hats overnight. It has created a whole new dark side to our industry: In contacting webmasters to remove links to my site, I had one actually try to extort $150 from me to have the link removed!

    My next project? Cafepress t-shirts with "Google Sucks" on them.
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    Our sites appeared to decrease in traffic with Panda. Quite the opposite since Penguin rolled out. Can't remember the last time traffic was this good. We do not freak out and make any changes in the way we do things. We still focus on the same SEO methods we have for years, the basics.

    Also,seeing less B.S., recently registered, .info domains with auto redirects in the SERPs. They still exist because the algo changes always seem to be reactive instead of proactive.

    Damn, could the Google have done something right for once?...
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    Good to hear, I would think that quality content affiliates would want to see the scummy sites removed from the SERPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick View Post
    Good to hear, I would think that quality content affiliates would want to see the scummy sites removed from the SERPs.
    The thing is, we don't consider ourselves a content-based affiliate. We actually write very little content. We are working on a new platform for our websites that will have more content for category pages - an area where we have been a little weak in. We are data driven. Our goal has always been to make it easy for consumers to find products...
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    So you are a datafeed publisher? I take it that Penguin was kind to you but not necessarily kind to content affiliates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick View Post
    So you are a datafeed publisher? I take it that Penguin was kind to you but not necessarily kind to content affiliates.
    If labels are necessary, then yes, we can call ourselves a datafeed publisher. We don't take one product or category and write a novel around it.

    How we display / present data is our key, IMhO.

    Do know that traffic has been insane since last week of April and far more consistent than during the Panda updates. Don't believe it's so much our sites being datafeed sites, than the Google cleaning out the obvious SERP spam (or what has been mistakenly referred to as "Over Optimization"). As I said, we don't change the way we do things when the Google says jump, when they've done something, or made a change. Never have.

    Content affiliates getting hit is more likely what happened in many of the other updates, including Panda - collateral damage/friendly fire. The more crap that gets filtered out of the SERPs, the higher content affiliates will end up ranking. The Google does wide, broad-range sweeps. Takes some time for the good folks to filter back. Again, as I said, we felt some of the Panda changes - but since Penguin things have been much better...
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    One more thing I've noticed that newly created websites got a huge advantage from Google Penguin update. I've two domains nearly 6 months old and the sites are partially developed (not much content) but updating in a week. Traffic got increased from 100 visit to 400-500 visits daily. Did anyone of you noticed the same thing?

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    I wouldn't spend any time worrying about what my PR is, as it doesn't convert into affiliate sales and is a very minor part of ranking. It's also been so unstable in the past that it shouldn't be the determining factor to decide if you've been affected by Penguin.
    I agree. I would still keep on building links to my site and updating its content for my users/readers. Business as usual.

    I know some people who got hit by this algo change and was taken off the SERPs completely, while some only suffered in ranking. There's been plenty of changes from the Panda to the Penguin, and still as a frequent Google user, I still see "junk sites" online. As teezone said:

    they used to say build your site for readers, not search engines, but I just don't think this is true anymore.
    I'd still like to believe that Google is really after getting quality sites at the top of the SERPs, but sometimes, it just feels it's the other way around.

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    Is a new iteration of Penguin rolling out?
    Saw this on anyone forum, anyone seeing a new re-indexing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick View Post
    ...anyone seeing a new re-indexing?
    We experienced the best traffic day of the year on May 20, 2012. Since then, it has gone back to pre-Penguin (Panda) levels. Only been a week so don't know for sure if it's just the kick-off of the Dog Days of Summer, or what...
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    Some tips for recovering from google penguin update are:
    (i)Bu including more unique quality good content in site .
    (ii)by getting do follow quality back links for site.
    (iii) by updating site with quality content regularly etc.

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    Changing the title and meta description isn't going to do anything. Are your pages quality content related to your site and subject?

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    have always went the whitehat way so neever been affected by these updates by google.
    Guess that makes you unique as everyone else has been effected on way or another. Most here are only whitehat and still got hammered.

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    Hmm, maybe they weren't so white after all?one wrong action could have affected the whole situation.
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    1. Write Unique Content and make it User Friendly
    2. Ignore Keywords Stuffing
    3. Stop getting Spam Backlinks
    4. Use Social Media Optimization
    5. Send Feedback to Google

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