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    Full Member ahmar's Avatar
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    I choose to post this here as its one of the most stupid things I have ever done. Just want share with everyone else that sometimes its simple ignorance than an intentional thing.

    I was just beginning my Affiliate Career and naïve about so many things (as I am an expert now), once logged on to CJ and on one of their pages saw ebates as their featured publisher. Got impressed, Wow Wee what a publisher to be featured on CJ. Can anybody think what I did? Wild Guess? What ever you are thinking, worst then that. Went and searched for their affiliate program and signed in and got accepted. What a proud person I was. Hey don’t call me all that what ever you are thinking &%*&*(&^(&% some explanation to come.

    I feel terribly luck that before I could put their links all over, I ended up here at ABW and started reading. What did I find? Ebates, so called featured publisher on CJ, is actually a worst enemy of all the affiliates. I thought how it could be, maybe somebody wrote against them for some personal reasons. Then I kept on reading but unfortunately everything turn out to be true of them being involved in stealing and all kind of suspicious activities.

    Didn’t know what to do. Confused and scared of ABW members that if they see me associated with ebates they are definitely going to tear me apart . Immediately signed in to my account and dropped them. Shoots……… that was a close call .

    Thinking about that still makes me laugh on my ignorance and scared too. Scared because imagine me being a newbie coming to ABW and asking you guys to review my site with ebates links all over by saying Hey Guys Please Review my wonderful work. Everyone can imagine the bashing I would have got. Due to the embarrassment maybe I would have never come back to ABW. And would have missed out on such a valuable information I get to ready everyday.

    Thanks to ABW that has opened my eyes.

    So this was my biggest blunder of my affiliate career. Anyone else wants to share theirs?
    <DT>[size=1][color=navy]"The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return.[/color][/size]<DT>[size=1][color=navy]It's the zero adjust on his bathroom scale." Arthur C. Clark[/color][/size]</DT>

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    My biggest blunder was not finding ABW 2 years before I did. Or actually, knowing it was there but not paying attention!!!!
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    Earlier in my "career" I signed up with shopathome.c0m, only to be "straightened out" by a few more knowledgable people on this forum. I still have $15 outstanding commissions with them that I will never see since I pulled their links.
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    Don't feel like the lone ranger as over 50,000 affiliates pushed the Gator and WhenU programs. Now look at CJ weaseling in with a CPC program after kicking that sleazy crowd to the curb 3 years ago. Here come some more click fee drive-ys and bundled installers... Wonder if they'll have 180Solutions in that CPC program under an assumed name
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    Actually, I doubt they would have ripped you a new one... at least not at first.

    I find ABW members are very good about the whole parasites issue... understanding that there are people out there who really don't realize what they do and why they should not be worked with. My first "introduction" to ABW was an E-mail from an affiliate telling me - quite politely - about Parasites and inviting me to learn more about the issue on ABW.

    Of course, these ABW folks usually become less friendly when you completely ignore their concerns and keep going - or turn to the dark side knowing full well what you're doing.

    Paul

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PaulS:
    Actually, I doubt they would have ripped you a new one... at least not at first. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I agree with you but parasites are such a sensitive issue that it just boils the blood of the honest affiliates, and I dont blame them for this, who work day in and day out and then see their commissoins being stolen.

    I have learnt 2 things from my experience:

    1 - New members comes and seeks help on parasites should be educated properly. Because I wonder how many affiliates out there just promoting parasites without actually knowing what they are doing. I was lucky that I ended up here quite early and saved myself from stealing from others. Because I would rather starve then steal a dime from someone.

    2 - Initially when I started I was told and read that Networks basically work as watch dogs over affiliates so that they dont do any hanky panky and keep an eye on merchants so that affiliates sales are tracked and credited properly. But how unfortuante that that is not totally true. Before I always hesitated in joining in-house affiliate programs thinking who is going to watch on my sales if they are tracked properly or not. Now I dont see any difference.

    Well, all I would say is thats life and all the business have their +ive and -ive aspects. Parasites are the -ives of AM.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    I feel terribly luck that before I could put their links all over, I ended up here at ABW and started reading. What did I find? Ebates, so called featured publisher on CJ, is actually a worst enemy of all the affiliates. I thought how it could be, maybe somebody wrote against them for some personal reasons. Then I kept on reading but unfortunately everything turn out to be true of them being involved in stealing and all kind of suspicious activities.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I don't know who's the worst enemy of all the affiliates, if the one you mentioned or the one that block the links and graphics.

    There is one big popular ad-blocker that many people like to use because it's sold under the name of (anti-virus) protection software (you guess the name) that program was promoted on that network last year, I don't know if they still are promoted there because I don't waste my time looking for it.

    But, that ad-blocker (anti-virus) protection software (you guess the name) to me it's the worse crap that I had found in that network so far.

    I still don't understand how can some affiliates keep on promoting that software product, since that software product is responsible for many lost sales and supposedly the cause for what the same network just had to come up with the new links work-around idea in order for us the affiliates not having our links and banners blocked by that ad-blocker (anti-virus) protection software (you guess the name)

    Just in case no one understand what I said above, here it's the short version: FK... (No.. ) software.

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    I know exaclty what you mean, actually I should have said "one of the worst enemies of all the affiliates".

    I did have a look at my site with that anti-virus on and to be honest I didnt see anything. Everything was wipped off like it wasnt there from the begining. I felt terrible and as till now I dont use any kind of redirects or anything that can help to stop that, just simple cut and paste of aff links provided by the networks.

    I just wonder how many times user just looks at my site as a blank page.
    <DT>[size=1][color=navy]"The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return.[/color][/size]<DT>[size=1][color=navy]It's the zero adjust on his bathroom scale." Arthur C. Clark[/color][/size]</DT>

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    The biggest blunder I have seen online was the person who sold the domain mp3.com for $1,000.

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    I am not sure what software Sal is talking about I think he means Norton.

    Let me tell you that if it is Norton, I agree 200%. I am not afraid to mention Norton because affiliates should really think about what this software does.

    Last week a friend of mine told me he was not able to see many of the sites he normally goes to. All he was getting was errors or white pages with no link or banner etc.

    This guy is a Mortgage Broker and he uses the internet all day to check everything from credit reports to real estate to online purchases.

    Well, one quick look at what he had running proved once again why I have not promoted or installed Norton System Works anywhere since about 1995. It is a very big mistake to have this running on any computer, bad for affiliates and bad for consumers.

    I have been in Tech Support for years, I can pratically make a living just visiting people everytime they call me with internet problems and why they cannot see certain banners or their computer is slow.

    If you know some one that knows someone then suggest to them to un-install or disable Norton System Works or any Norton software running on their computer. They will think you are a genious just like friend thought I was one when he was finally able to see his mortgage credit reports, etc.

    Since 1995 I have been seing the same problems on customers computers always had something to do with Norton, but they still keep marketing and bundleling with computers.

    Guess their still winning, if you let em.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JJJay:
    The biggest blunder I have seen online was the person who sold the domain mp3.com for $1,000. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



    Well, this one takes the cake.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ahmar:

    I did have a look at my site with that anti-virus on and to be honest I didnt see anything. Everything was wipped off like it wasnt there from the begining.

    I just wonder how many times user just looks at my site as a blank page. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    At least it was a blank page. My son got some parasites on his PC and when I went to look at my site it was porn banners!

    Ebudae


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