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    Question Prosperent Paypal Commission Fee for non-US
    Prosperent Paypal Commission Fee for non-US
    2%

    Any way to remove such fee ?

    Transfer account balance between paypal accounts should be no charge by Paypal ?

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    These are paypal fees that we have no control over. You can look at using payoneer instead. Great bunch of people to work with, more flexible options for taking out money, and great support. Most of our non US guys use them.

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    >> paypal fees that we have no control over

    if yes, all other affiliate programs who sent me money will charge me additional 2% fee as well. However, they were not.

    Do your company transfer fund to affiliates using direct credit card transfer ?
    or load up Paypal account with fund first from bank or other methods.

    Then you only send out payment to affiliates using the available balance from Paypal account.

    i believe there is a difference.

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    We load paypal, then send out hundreds of payments at once to affiliates. That's the ONLY option you have when using the paypal api. We've been doing this for 4 years now.

    Staright from the paypal site:

    It's free to send money in the U.S. to friends and family when you use your PayPal balance or bank account. Fees apply when you use a debit or credit card, or the payment is international.

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    https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees
    Outside the US:
    Small fee of 0.5% to 2% (depends on destination) when fully funded with bank account or PayPal balance.

    So affiliates are paying you more than the Paypal charge you.

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    So affiliates are paying you more than the Paypal charge you.
    I don't know what you mean by that.

    Paypal charges a fee, we calculate that based on the information returned by their api call. It's all done based on the info given to us by paypal. If they lower fees, or reduce them, we do as well.

    As I said earlier, the vast majority of our non-us publishers use payoneer. Paypal doesn't have the best service and support history which is why we give publishers multiple options.

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    >> I don't know what you mean by that.

    Paypal charge you 0.5% to 2% (depends on destination)
    The actual charge may be just 0.5% or max 2% or in between for that affiliate.

    However, you charge a 2% fee no matter where is that affiliate locates.

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    No, we charge up to 2%. We charge what we get back in the paypal api call response no more, no less. I would rather give an affiliate a worst case scenario up front than a best case scenario. Worst case, paypal charges 2%.

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    i see.
    So what i see from the payment selection just show the worse scenario.

    Then that's mean you are not deducting the fee at the time of sending payment. You have to charge back the fee later after you received the report from Paypal ?

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    No, when you post the list of paypal e-mail addresses to the paypal api it gives back the fee data. It is calculated and charged at the time the payment is sent out.

    If you are a high volume affiliate I can work with you to eliminate the fee. We also have a performer program which increases your share of the commission to 80 percent instead of 70. This is for affiliates that earn 6,000 or more for 3 consecutive months. We have a couple dozen affiliates in the program right now.

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    Vrindavan, you are looking at making payments for personal use, not business. We use PayPal's Mass Payments system to send out all payments at once via their api.

    From Paypal:
    For Mass Payments to recipients within the U.S., the fee is 2% of total up to $1 per payment. For Mass Payments to recipients outside the U.S., the fee is 2% of total up to a maximum of $20.00 USD per payment, or the foreign currency equivalent of $20.00 USD.

    https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/mass-payments

    PayPal used to charge 2% with a max of $1 for international, but changed to 2% with a max of $20 around a year ago. We made the decision to stop covering that cost because there are cheaper alternatives to send internationally.

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    Thanks for digging that up Andrew.

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    Thanks Andrew

    >> making payments for personal use, not business

    They don't mentioned the fee is only for personal account and not for business account here
    https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

    So the significantly higher charge to send moeny is because you are using their Mass Payments feature.

    If you are not using that, you probably can save their high fee.
    As for Mass Payments feature, they charge you for sending money to US accounts too, not just non-US, so you are stilling paying the fee for US affiliates, but not paying for non-US affiliates.

    * For Mass Payments to recipients within the U.S., the fee is 2% of total up to $1 per payment. For Mass Payments to recipients outside the U.S., the fee is 2% of total up to a maximum of $20.00 USD per payment, or the foreign currency equivalent of $20.00 USD.

    using Mass Payments is optional to a company?
    balance the convenience and cost(cost bear by the money receivers)

    Sending money individually to save the charge ?
    Free when sending money inside the US.
    Outside the US: Small fee of 0.5% to 2% (depends on destination) when fully funded with bank account or PayPal balance.
    Last edited by Vrindavan; May 17th, 2013 at 09:36 PM.

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    Unfortunately, there is no easy way to pay affiliates individually. This is why paypal has the mass pay option for businesses. We have 8200 affiliates, so paying them individually is completely out of the question.

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    We only accept commissions in cash - $1 bills.

    Do you deliver commissions to the Diamond Cabaret & "Steakhouse"?
    Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convergence View Post
    We only accept commissions in cash - $1 bills.

    Do you deliver commissions to the Diamond Cabaret?
    Now that I can make an exception for lol.

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    We only accept commissions in cash - $1 bills.
    If you can get him to stop hanging out at strip clubs, he'll take fives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobby131313 View Post
    If you can get him to stop hanging out at strip clubs, he'll take fives.
    It's a "Steakhouse"...
    Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...

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    >> so paying them individually is completely out of the question.

    or just for non-US affiliates only ?
    (US affiliates still use Mass Payments)

    if not, what about USD paper check ?
    Last edited by Vrindavan; May 21st, 2013 at 09:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrindavan View Post
    or just for non-US affiliates only?
    No. Half of our affiliates are non-US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vrindavan View Post
    if not, what about USD paper check ?
    We would consider it if there was a bigger demand for paper checks. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. Most people prefer to receive payments electronically these days.

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    >> prefer to receive payments electronically these days.

    me too. But cheque has one advantage.
    it is $0.00 charge for me to deposit a cheque to my bank account.

    But i have to pay high bank fee or paypal fee to have fund finally reach my bank account.

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    If we had to send international paper checks, the fees would likely be the same or higher than paypal.

    Bottom line, you have two options. Paypal, or Payoneer.

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    Third option: Move to the United States...
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    Have you tried Paypal business account? I pay $0.50 to get paid that way.

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