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    Should I be Worried?
    I usually don't pay much attention to the data provided by Google WMT. However, I saw something interesting today which caught my attention.

    One of my sites got hundreds of backlinks from another affiliate site(who happened to be an ABWer). I'm not sure how long his/her site has been linking to my site. But what makes me wonder is the links structure:

    For example:
    My site: mysite.com
    His site: hissite.com

    My site links: mysite-baby.html
    His links: hissite-baby.html

    And the hissite-baby.html is exact the same as mysite-baby.html

    Is this a normal backlink? Should I be worried?

    Thanks.

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    Have you contacted that ABWer?
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    No. I'm trying to figure out if the links are normal before I do anything else.

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    Suppose those links are normal backlinks, I will just go ahead and link back to his/her site as a favor...Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayfly View Post
    And the hissite-baby.html is exact the same as mysite-baby.html

    Is this a normal backlink? Should I be worried?
    hmmm...

    this sounds like something that could happen if somebody copied your site, but overlooked a hardcoded full-URL link back to your homepage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidh View Post
    hmmm...

    this sounds like something that could happen if somebody copied your site,
    That's what I thought. If that's the case, what should I do to this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidh View Post
    but overlooked a hardcoded full-URL link back to your homepage?
    Could you explain a little more about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayfly View Post
    Suppose those links are normal backlinks, I will just go ahead and link back to his/her site as a favor...Any thoughts?
    Two way links my not be a good idea, I would not link back.

    So are you saying your original content has been copied and put on their site?? If so I would PM them and ask them what is up and if not response then out them in this thread and let them defend themselves in public.


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    I'm not sure if they are copying my content. I did a little more search and found some interesting information about somebody put other people's sites on "iframes" which could cause this.

    What I'm worrying the most is all these hundreds of backlinks will cause the duplicate issue unless they are "iframes". I'm very puzzled as why this person would frame my entire sites this way. Maybe a mistake?

    The weird thing is that if I type hissite.com/baby.html onto the address bar, it goes to 404 not found page.

    Just that hundreds of pages listed on my WMT "links to your site" all showing my pages with his domain bothers me.

    Maybe some of you tech savvy guys will shed some light on this...

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    I would PM them right away, but the fact that you can not bring up their page is strange. Bottom line I would expect is that they are damaging your ranking in Google and it needs to be addressed right away.

    If you want to PM me some of the urls in question for both sites feel free but the fact that their site is not coming up for you is weird.

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    After digging deeper, I actually found a couple of very reputable sites has backlinks to my site as well(but not hundreds of links like the affiliate did). The WMT shows the same link structure. Seeing this make me feel ease a little.

    Maybe that's the way backlinks suppose to look like? But why somebody would want to link my entire site? How is it possible to do that?

    I will appreciate it if anyone could share a sample or two of what a real backlink looks like(not asking to see your real site name).

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    It is possible the other person's site was hacked, your site scraped, and the hacker's affiliate links added...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Convergence View Post
    It is possible the other person's site was hacked, your site scraped, and the hacker's affiliate links added...
    No, the other person's site is working fine as far as I can see. I tested a few pages from WMT backlinks list, they all have my affiliate links on them.

    That's what puzzles me.

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    Have you PM'ed them yet??

    I would also keep a copy of some of their pages with your affiliate links just to cover your butt!! Print out the source code of a few of their pages. It sounding like this ABW member has been ripping off your code but not smart enough to change the affiliate links to their or are iframing your pages as you stated above but I have no idea why they would do that.

    Are you close with this ABW member??? Something like this will only cause you problem with your merchants/networks so address this ASAP.

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    What I'm saying is, when someone's site is hacked it is not uncommon for pages to be ADDED without the webmaster knowing...
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    Holy cow!

    I think this person is copying my entire site. Just under

    https://hissite.com

    instead of

    http://hissite.com

    I was typing in http: // hissite.com earlier and it went to his own site.

    But when I typed in https: // hissite.com it brings up my entire site

    Why is he doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convergence View Post
    What I'm saying is, when someone's site is hacked it is not uncommon for pages to be ADDED without the webmaster knowing...
    I think your being to nice. What is the chances that one ABW member site get hacked with another ABW code??? It "LOOKS" like we have a dishonest member here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayfly View Post

    Why is he doing this?
    Did you ask him yet?? No mater what they say I would expect they are up to no good.

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    mayfly can you ping their site and your site to see if they have the same IP's. If they are different then use the following site to see if the two ip's point to the same host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kse View Post
    Did you ask him yet?? No mater what they say I would expect they are up to no good.
    Not yet...I want to be 100% sure. Like I said, http://hissite.com goes to his own site. https://hissite.com is exact the same as my site. Why is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by kse View Post
    mayfly can you ping their site and your site to see if they have the same IP's. If they are different then use the following site to see if the two ip's point to the same host.
    Their site and my site have the same IPs.

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    I'm wondering why is he using https://hissite.com to copy my site because when people type in hissite.com, it will just bring up http://hissite.com(his own site), it won't bring up https://hissite.com(my site).

    What good would that be to the copycat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayfly View Post
    Not yet...I want to be 100% sure. Like I said, http://hissite.com goes to his own site. https://hissite.com is exact the same as my site. Why is that?


    Their site and my site have the same IPs.
    So your both hosted on the same server/hosting company. It is possible that their is an issue with your hosting company. But the changes of that being the reason is very low, but just it case buy a few lotto tickets today.

    I would just go ahead and contact the member you been very nice about this and are giving them the benefit of the doubt (I sure I would not of) Just ask them to read this thread. If this is a hosting issue I sure they would want to know about it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayfly View Post
    I'm wondering why is he using https://hissite.com to copy my site because when people type in hissite.com, it will just bring up http://hissite.com(his own site), it won't bring up https://hissite.com(my site).

    What good would that be to the copycat?
    Because Google/Bing will index both versions of the site. But if they have your affiliate links and not theirs then their is a server issue or they were not smart enough to change the affiliate links over to theirs.

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    mayfly, have you ever posted/linked to your site on ABW??

    What is your hosting company???

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    Yeah, I'm currently contacting my hosting company about this...see what they say first.

    I sure hope it is a server issue because I don't like to accuse someone for something they didn't do. This ABWer member is not very active lately but was well known. I will give him the benefit of the doubt unless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kse View Post
    mayfly, have you ever posted/linked to your site on ABW??
    I never posted or linked my site on ABW. It could just be coincidence that this affiliate found my site over the web and decided to copy a https version, or could be just the hosting company's issue? I have no clue.

    This is one of my oldest sites I hosted with fastnext for almost a decade since Geno first introduced them to ABW. Funny thing is that I was recently thinking about getting another host.

    I'm very confused right now.

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