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    Hi,

    I've just started getting some affiliate links onto my site and one of the main areas will be CD's. I was hoping someone might be able to recommend some good CD AP's.

    I've joined up with Tower Records UK on CJ for now but I wasn't clear whether I'd still get a referral if a US user then clicked onto the US site - I've sent them an email but no reply yet.

    I'd prefer a program from a site that anyone in the world can use.

    Cheers.

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    O'yeah, a good book program as well.

    Cheers.

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    Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk both offer fairly good programmes with a good product range and do-it-yourself links. Worth checking out.

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    I would agree with Amazon. Good name recognition, so/so commission at 5% with a $10 max per sale but that shouldn't affect you with CD's. For books, they are the best, IMHO. I have tried other book sellers and no one converts like Amazon.

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    I have checked out Amazon but wasn't too impressed with their commission, also, isn't it true that if I have product link A and someone clicks through and buys product B - I get nothing?

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    as long as they go to Amazon and stay there from your site, I believe you still get the commission. I also use amazon for my cd's page.

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    I use Amazon for CDs. I haven't seen anyone paying a whole lot more than 5%, and I can't beat the conversion rate over there.

    If someone clicks on itemA but buys itemB you get paid. You get paid even if they add itemC, itemD, and the kitchen sink while they are on your session. It never ceases to amuse me what folks buy that I don't market (the word book rarely appears on my active sales pages).

    However, do NOT think about getting 15% for books. If your visitor clicks on your item link for itemA, but clicks on ANY link before the shopping cart, then you get the 5% consolation prize commission. Almost everyone will click on a review or larger image or some link, so don't think about 15%, and you're fine.

    You won't find a CD that costs over $200, so you don't have to worry about the cap. It's a per-item cap, not a per overall order cap. So if someone buys 30 CDs at once, you get 5% on each one of the 30 CD's. And if they return one, it gets reversed, but all the other 29 don't.

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    Hello, this is my first post here... Anyway, if you do not want to use Amazon, vstore.com may be a good alternative. The nice thing about them is that you get your own virtual domain, so when the customer goes back to the vstore, you still get the commission (with Amazon, if they go back directly to Amazon, you get zilch).

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    I pulled Amazon off my site over a year ago due to catching them red handed in fraud -deceptions and non-reporting of sales from two years of traffic. I will not put them back on to play games with me and divert sales. No cookies =no promotions. I personally have put up 15 vStores for clients with lot's of targeted traffic as their mini-malls. Never heard on anye getting paid by them. NOT ONE of them generated a sale since that company (vStores) obviously has reporting problems. They also have a history of cancelling verticle storefronts without notice and re-direct all traffic to their own affiliate coded Mall page.

    What idiot looking for CD's or books isn't going to just type in amazon.com in the address bar and bypass your commission efforts. Dead affiliate category.

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    Amazon's commission system is a little different from most.

    There are no cookies. You earn commission on anything bought in the session that Amazon creates after you have referred the visitor to the site. If you use a product link to refer them, you can (sometimes) earn 15% commission up to a maximum of $10 per item.

    Also, you basically only earn on items from the Amazon.com store itelf, so not auctions, zShops, used or some partner stores.

    On the plus side, and is a BIG plus, it's the largest Internet retailer with a huge product range. There are retailers that will give you better rates of commission, but most people will feel happy doing business with Amazon.

    On the other hand, joining a program at (say) Commission Junction or Befree will give you access to a wider range of affiliates. CJ will even pay you in pounds sterling, whereas Amazon.com will only send a dollar cheque (Amazon.co.uk pays in sterling of course). CJ has some pretty good retailers, but it doesn't have Amazon or anyone nearly as big.

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    As Mike pointed out, stay away VStore. I used them for a time when ubrandit.com got rid of their book, music, and video store (incredible program BTW). Never had one single sale at Vstore, and their prices aren't that competitive.

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    quote:
    you can (sometimes) earn 15% commission up to a maximum of $10 per item ~dynamoo


    Moo, you can only get 15% from direct product links to BOOKS. ALL non-book items are strictly 5%,with a $10 cap. I never said the picture at Amazon was all roses.

    Certainly what Amazon is counting on is that after a shopper realizes that they can find any CD they are looking for at Amazon, they will go directly there. However, you might be surprised at how many might not realize it the first time.

    I have a couple of pages promoting a couple of particular titles in videos. They rank well in the free engines (I never pay for traffic to my primarily Amazon pages since the comission structure doesn't really support it). I sell a few every day. Okay, that puts all of $1.50 in my pocket every day, but you know how the game goes. That $1.50/day at the end of the month paid more than it's share of the server and my time, etc... and you go about putting up another bunch of specific pages and you have some more pocket change that adds up.

    Last Quarter's Amazon check was just over $1,200.

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    On second thought, I did only have one customer through Vstore. Myself. Long time ago. Actually, I have a nutrition store with them some time ago. Then I got a very strange email from someone. She said she worked for a magazine and was thinking about writing about one of my web sites but did not appreciate that it was linking to a PORN site.

    I checked all my links, and it turned out Vstore allowed their vstorenutrition.com domain expire and it was snatched by someone in Russia who used it for a porn site. Well, hit shappens, of course, but Vstore should have had the decency to inform all of its nutrition affiliates about the problem. They never did.

    I guess if I wanted to sell CDs, I would still do it through Amazon.

    The main problem with Amazon is that just about everyone is their affiliate, so if you place an Amazon link, chances are people will click on it and then edit it with their own ID.

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    The main problem with Amazon is that just about everyone is their affiliate, so if you place an Amazon link, chances are people will click on it and then edit it with their own ID.


    Dang, I never will learn how to think like a crook. Now why have I never done that?

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Time Traveller:

    The main problem with Amazon is that just about everyone is their affiliate, so if you place an Amazon link, chances are people will click on it and then edit it with their own ID.



    This might be true among webmasters, however, I would venture a guess that (and this is strictly a guess, I could be way off) more than 90% of the web surfers out there are just that...surfers, not webmasters.

    Add to that, it's against the rules to purchase through your own affiliate links at Amazon. Granted they don't seem to care if it doesn't happen too often, but if it happens a lot (pointing to the obvious intent of getting a discount on everything purchased, not accidental purchases after checking your sites links (for example)) they do stop payment on those commissions.

    Brian

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    It may be against the rules, but I have seen people admitting to doing it on other sites. It is quite possible people do not realize it is against the rules. When you read the FAQ for the Amazon affiliate program, it tells you that you should read the complete affiliate agreement. That leaves a legal loophole since anyone can claim that they felt the FAQ answered all their questions and that they never read the full agreement.

    I mean, it clearly states that you may not buy anything from Amazon for your customers but have to send them to Amazon so they buy directly. Yet, this site clearly is acting as an intermediary and has been doing so quite openly, even been praised for doing it. It is, of course, possible that they have a special agreement with Amazon, I suppose.

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