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    Does anyone have any idea how much it costs, thru CJ, LS or any of the smaller places? Just out of interest

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    For the big three networks you are talking a minimum of $500 per month plus installation costs which will run about $3,000.

    The smaller networks are much less expensive.

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    Set up $5,000 $2,250, plus $3,000 escrow $10,000 $5,000
    Renewal

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    $0 $250 $2,000 $0
    Commission

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    2% to 3% of sales 30% of $ paid to affiliates 2% to 3% of sales Negotiated
    Minimum Commission $3,000 month $500 month $2,000 month $0

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    Wow I am flabergasted

    BTW is this post 200,000?
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    No wonder the networks favor the merchants and their quests to get over the monthly expense by devising leakage/diversion tactics.

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    Actually Befree has recently lowered the costs somewhat from those figures to more closely compete with CJ

    Setup: about $2500 plus escrow
    Commission Rate: 30% of $ paid to affiliates
    Minimum Commission: $500 per month

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    LS charges $10,000 up front and can't pull off consolidated payments? Please.



    Mike - Agreed. The setup does inherently seem to make those tactics more appearling. BTW, what happens if a merchant falls below the minimum?

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    Remember, everything is negotiable, given the right circumstances...

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    Yep these are just the published rates, doesn't mean that's what you'll pay

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    Correct me if I am thinking wrong

    But Escrow means the merchant has to put money in a bank to prevent them leaving without paying any unpaid bills, is this right?

    If the above is right, how can the networks use the merchants leaving without paying as an excuse for not paying us any outstanding comissions we are owed?

    BTW is this post 200,000?
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    Gordon:

    While some might say you are, in general, "wrong-thinking" it seems you are on target here.

    [j/k! ]

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    In Andy's case the merchant performs like they should. Racking up sales offsets the need for a network to seek large minimum monthy fees. The networks would be well advised to reward converting merchants by publishing their conversion ratios in their profiles.

    The smarties running the major BHO applications overcome all normal affiliates problems. Traffic and pre-sell expenses. Their real expense is tied to their loyality rewards payouts, which they carefully defer into the future and calculate the percentage who never will demand payouts.

    Mike & Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..

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    SamyT,

    Those are the big boys fees and CJ is worth the money IMHO for what they provide. You asked about smaller networks too.

    ShareaSale is one of the best and only charges $150 set-up, $50 deposit and 20% of affiliate commissions as transaction fees. No monthly minimum, as long as you have money in your account, you are active.

    Ooooooops. S'cuse the sig. HTML has not been turned on in this forum yet.

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    Linda,

    I turned it on, TY.

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    "Costs of affiliate program"

    Hey let's not forget the $500.00 to $600.00 a month some of the merchants must pay for affiliate managers, because you never hear from them.

    Then there is the cost of sending Emails.... what is it, 3, 4, 5, ??? cents per email to thousands of affiliates?

    I look for the day, when every affiliate from every nation can climb to the mountain top and yell,
    'Free again, Free Again."

    Today is a national day of parasite free shopping.

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    Along those lines, what would be a fair rate to pay someone to manage an in-house program? I have spoken to a family member about helping me set up an affilite program, but want to make sure that it would be fair and benefit us both mutually. The site currently grosses about $8K a month without any affiliates, so I think that an affiliate program for the site would do fairly well.
    Thanks

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Gearshopper:
    "Costs of affiliate program"

    Hey let's not forget the $500.00 to $600.00 a month some of the merchants must pay for affiliate managers, because you never hear from them.



    ROFLMAO, that is a great post !

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Spencer:
    Along those lines, what would be a fair rate to pay someone to manage an in-house program? I have spoken to a family member about helping me set up an affilite program, but want to make sure that it would be fair and benefit us both mutually. The site currently grosses about $8K a month without any affiliates, so I think that an affiliate program for the site would do fairly well.
    Thanks


    Spencer,

    Welcome to ABW....

    All depends on your budget, but you "should" consider a seasoned AM to run your program. There are a few on thi sboard that do just that. What you "think" you will be saving by having a family member run the program, is really a detriment to the growth potential of the program itself.

    Good, experienced AM's are very hard to find, as you can see by the small number that are active and post here in comparison to the 1,000's of affiliate programs on the web today.

    You could expect to pay around 60K - 100K for a full time AM, considerably less if you outsource to any of excellent program managers here at ABW.

    Good luck to you....don't skimp on this very important component of your program...

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    Andy:

    Know of any experienced AMs that are available?

    Ooops ...

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    quote:
    Originally posted by phillyBurbs.com:
    Andy:

    Know of any experienced AMs that are available?

    Ooops ...

    Karl Smith
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    Yes, there are a few here on ABW....look around..

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    Andy laughs at the $500-600 monthly AM payroll fee. Truth be known ...very few AM's actually deserve this for the majority of programs running on auto-pilot and posting a few coupons and e-mail newsletters a month. In 6 years of being a pesky thorn in the side of hundreds of AM's on 3 networks I have actually heard from 8 of them. The rest were just auto-responders or deadpool announcements.

    Good question for Andy would be to ask him if he knows any network AM's not posting here that actually put in 50 hour work weeks.

    Mike & Charlie ...

    If they won't adopt and feed a bird ..flip them one! BBQ some Gator and remember to flush WhenU..

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    Many program don't even have a dedicated AM. Sometimes they only have an online marketing manager that wears so many other hats they barely have time for affiliates. Sometimes they only have a junior level admin type that doesn't really understand the industry and does not have the experience or commitment to support partners the way they should be supported.

    BTW - I think I got a raw deal! I work at least 80 hours a week, have not taken a day off for over 17 weeks and my boss only pays me $600 a month. I guess I should ask her for a raise

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    Haiko & Andy

    You said that those sign up fees are negotiable.

    What kind of deals can be had?


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    Thanks Andy for the input. I wasn't really trying to save $$ by using a family member, but rather trying to help him get his feet wet in the business. I guess I would still be overseeing everything, but would definitely need some help to free up time for me. When I know everything is set to go, I'm sure I'll be putting out a casting call for an AM right here.

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    Linda you definitely deserve a huge raise.

    Mike & Charlie ...

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