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  1. #1
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    January 18th, 2005
    In case Steve does not open his e-mail, I am posting this communication here for all to know.



    Subject: Fwd: RE: Affiliate Program


    Why are you allowing this crook merchant to be a part of the Linkshare
    Network? Look at their numbers, they do not bring any value to this
    network and they are not out to run an affiliate marketing program. They
    are out to screw the Linkshare affiliates and I assure you that
    incidents like these are NOT HELPING you at all. Many of the good
    affiliates out there are NOT working with Linkshare Merchants because of
    such crooks as

    It is a great move to bring in the Linkshare Affiliate
    Marketing Network. Let's keep this network the ONE and ONLY True
    Affiliate Marketing Network online. It is time to remove merchants that
    do not perform and who do not know what affiliate marketing means.

    Linkshare needs to make this move and Prove the rest of the Affiliate
    marketing community that Linkshare means Business, Affiliate Marketing


    Murat Ates
    mates@*****.com http://www.******.com/
    908 419 6339
    -Current member of Linkshare Affiliate Advisory Board-

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: RE: Affiliate Program
    Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:13:59 -0400
    From: "Jameson, Beth" <>
    To: "'Murat Ates'" <mates@*****.com>
    CC: "Kelly, Pierrette" <>, "Egan, Tina L."
    <>, "Hayley Silver (E-mail)" <>,
    "Tiffany Ann Barnes (E-mail)" <>

    Dear Affiliate Member,

    In response to your email below, dated May 31, 2002, we acknowledge and
    accept your withdrawal of your website, www.*****.com, from the
    Affiliate Program effective immediately. This letter was mailed to you via
    United States Postal Service on July 3, 2002.

    Thank you for your past interest in

    Pierrette Kelly
    Vice President & General Manager

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Murat Ates [mailto:mates@******.com]
    Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:34 AM
    To: Jameson, Beth
    Subject: Re: Affiliate Program

    You are not allowed to reverse earned commissions. Nowhere in the agreement
    says that we can not tell our customers what you tell to yours.

    If you do not understand affiliate marketing, get out of it. Remove me
    from your
    program after paying me what I earned.

    There is no free traffic, Sorry, I will not let anyone, including you,
    steal traffic
    with scams like this you are running.

    Learn affiliate marketing and give up on telling me that you value your

    -Murat Ates

    Jameson, Beth wrote:

    >Dear Affiliate Member,
    >It has come to our attention that some members of the Affiliate
    >Program have used unauthorized e-coupons in their sales transactions. We
    >have confirmed that some sales received through your site
    > included this unauthorized e-coupon.
    >We have conducted a comprehensive audit of customer orders placed between
    >February 25th through April 30th. The following actions have been taken:
    >1) You will receive 100% commission on sales that did not include the
    >promotional discount.
    >2) Certain members of your Web site are registered members of as
    >well. Those joint members did legitimately receive the e-coupon offer
    > and then placed an order through your Web site. You will receive
    >100% commission on those sales as well.
    >3) You will not receive a commission on those sales where your members
    >the e-coupon offer without authorization.
    >As a reminder, only promotions hosted through the LinkShare interface are
    >valid for posting and ultimately, commissionable. Pursuant to Section 4.2
    >the Master Agreement that refers to the use of approved links from the
    >Partner's site to "...Partner may not copy, distribute, modify,
    >reverse engineer, or create derivative works from the same." Violations of
    >the Master Agreement are grounds for non-payment of commission and
    >termination from the Affiliate Program. This letter was mailed to
    >you via United States Postal Service on May 17, 2002.
    >We value our affiliate partners and look forward to growing the
    >Affiliate Program to mutual success.
    >Pierrette Kelly
    >Vice President & General Manager

    [ 07-05-2002: Message edited by: BluesX ]

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    January 18th, 2005
    Richmond, VA
    For whatever it's worth, I just reviewed CVS performance on our sites. Pretty bad - may be our fault.

    Never the less, I just dropped them.


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    2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner  ecomcity's Avatar
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    St Clair Shores MI.
    Wanna bet some lame affiliate program management company runs the CVS program? These companies charge the majors 5000.00 per month for running the program and then sign them up with all the opt-out spammers -scumwares/parasites for additional fees to make sure they don't convert as a ROI scheme.

    They'd probably recommend you can increase conversions by renting a school bus and kidnapping nursing home patients and take them to a local CVS store. Chain the walkers together until 50% of the captured purchase something and place their personal -banking -CC -medical information online from your notebook computer. If the sales don't show up, then try for a private deal where you earn 1.00 per lead if the Old Folks sign away their estates to a living trust in favor of CVS as a primary beneficiary.

    If that doesn't work then you'll need Guido "the enforcer" to seek out the affiliate management company and give them an attitude adjustment and turn back on the reporting tags.

    [ 07-08-2002: Message edited by: ]

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    CVS is scum.

    That is the same thing KBtoys did earlier this year.

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    2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner  ecomcity's Avatar
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    St Clair Shores MI.
    "CVS is scum.
    That is the same thing KBtoys did earlier this year."

    Perhaps they use the same scumbag professional affiliate mis-mangement company!! I figure KBtoys to go chapter 11 before the end of the YEAR. Overstock will buy up their eToys inventories and regular stock.

    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: ]

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  6. #6
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    January 18th, 2005

    This issue has been addressed


    [ 07-15-2002: Message edited by: Haiko ]

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    ABW Ambassador Ron Bechdolt's Avatar
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    Affiliateville, USA
    -Current member of Linkshare Affiliate Advisory Board-

    I'm learning something new every day. I did not know there was an Affiliate Advisory Board for LS. As an active affiliate with over 200 domains, I'd sure like to be a voice on that board. And I mean a constuctive voice, not a complainer. There is so much LS needs to do to improve if they'd just do it!

  8. #8
    2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner  ecomcity's Avatar
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    St Clair Shores MI.
    Jeeze my attitude has improved over the years. Must be getting hardened to the reality that an advertising mindset has no limits when it comes brutalizing the worker bees.
    Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie

    "What have you done today to put real value into a referral click...from a shoppers viewpoint!"

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