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    I know that I have been highjacked, plain and simple all fo a sudden i stopped making money from linkshare.

    I emailed them abotu the problem and then did more research. After discovering that I had indeed been highjacked I then complainned more firmly about it to linkshare and this is the response that they gave me.....

    "Proove it." I then encrypted my site with a software suite that apparently does just that and it worked for awhile (2 months). I noticed that I was making 3 times what I was making before being highjacked.

    I then sent another email to linkshare telling them that since I encrypted the site my revenue has been 3 times higher. That's when they told me that "We are not responsible for your commssions being highjacked" there after they pointed me to a new addendum they made in reagrds to this which denounces use of scripts and what not which highjack commissions.

    Here are a few questions that raise concerns

    How can I proove it?

    Why did you not help me in trying to investigate this issue?

    What can I do to prevent this from happening again?

    And finally, Why doesn't linkshare mask the links like CJ does.

    I love the interface that linkshare offers, but the customer services for affilaites is a major pain riddled with attitude and lack of concerns.

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    I am interested in what you are saying, but I am not sure I understand what you mean by being hijacked (parasites)...


    >After discovering that I had indeed been highjacked I then complainned more firmly about it to linkshare
    How did you discover it exactly?

    and What do you mean by encrypted (SSL)?

    Trying to make sure what happened to you could not happen to other people.

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    higjacked = I did not recieve my commissions.

    How, who, and what exactly I'm not sure.

    This is how I know I was "highjacked":

    for one year straight I was making from about 100 to 300 a month and then all of a sudden I was making nothing, as in 0$ for about three months, then I encrypted he site.

    After I encrypted my site I made about three times what I was making before being highjacked.

    The encryption is not SSL, it's weaker than that, but that's all I want to say about that.

    After I have discovered this forum today. I have read up though on allot and will perhaps in he future be able to combat this theft by actualy being able to report were and who get's the commissions when they are highjacked.

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    Would sure like more discussion on this issue as my LS income is down 80% this year over the last 4 year averages. Sure would like assurances before putting up new LS merchnats to replace some real non-converting duds as they have quite a few. Problem is the casino dice table has better odds on picking a winner. Where's that merchant conversion rating system? Without it even LS isn't aware the hijackers are at work.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>After I have discovered this forum today. I have read up though on allot and will perhaps in he future be able to combat this theft by actualy being able to report were and who get's the commissions when they are highjacked.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I only belong to two networks so far, but I cann't remember seeing a link to ABW on either? Maybe they don't really want well educated Affiliates? Maybe Haiko should look into getting a link in each one of their Affiliate resource pages(the help make your site better pages)?

    Do I get a teeshirt?

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    I forgot to mention that I emailed linkshare about 30 times to get 2 answer's.

    The only reason I think they answered is because I emailed all of my merchants (about 400 total) that I was having problems and that linkshare did not want to even acknoledge the problem.

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    Well, depending on the merchant at Linkshare you may have fallen into the hands of Parasites. You can read about them here at ABestweb, there is a section called Parisiteware (See the homepage).

    If this is the case, and you were able to beat them with your 'encryption' it would be the first time I have heard of anyone successfully beating them.

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    I have never received a cheque from linkshare. I have however received small cheques from CJ. In the last two month's I haven't registered any revenue at CJ.Many of my in house programs have stopped below the minium payout of $25.00

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    I am still confused. How would running your site thru ssl prevent anything? Except a speedy site?

    I can't blame linkshare if this is how you presented your side, you just aren't making any sense. But don't worry, those here who want to believe will believe no matter how flimsy your point.

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    Guess-->Maybe he means his site was being copied. Then he encryped the HTML code~?

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    I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Hijacked? Encrypted site?

    If you were so vague in your emails to Linkshare, then how do you expect to get any help?

    Proove it.

    (I would really like to know about it; I think my site was hijacked too.)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jollygoodpirate:
    Well, depending on the merchant at Linkshare you may have fallen into the hands of Parasites. You can read about them here at ABestweb, there is a section called Parisiteware (See the homepage).

    If this is the case, and you were able to beat them with your 'encryption' it would be the first time I have heard of anyone successfully beating them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I have read about the parasiteware. Not sure if this is it or not.

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    The description of your problem needs to be clearer to help us. These are the three main things that make up a web site. Which one is going down?

    Page Views: The number of times pages get seen.

    Click Throughs: The number of times people click on an ad.

    Sales: The number and amount of transactions.

    Page Views is about the amount of traffic that you get on the site. This is a matter of inbound links and your search engine position. Quite frankly, we are all trying to get page views. If site X gets a better search engine position than site R, then that is straight honest competition.

    The big hijacking issue hear is if a person copies your site...then that is a copyright infringement.

    The number of click throughs to page views is generally a matter of the quality of your traffic and the quality of your site (do you have a good presale). Content sites tend to have very bad clickthrough numbers.

    NOTE...it is possible for parasites to hijack a click. If the parasite replaces the tracking code before it reaches the server, then you would never know about the click. Parasites have also been know to overwrite the ads on sites.

    The next issue is the number of click throughs that turn into sales (conversion ratio). This is largely out of your hands, it is also where the parasites like eBates love to hang out. They popup on sites with coupons to try and lure the end user away from the sale.

    I guess the final area is in the paying department. This is what I thought you were saying. If someone logs into Linkshare and has your check sent to a different address, or if the check gets lost in the mail then you don't get a check. This last one is easy to solve as Linkshare has a report on when and where they send checks.

    You need to be a lot more precise in describing what you think is happening.

    BTW, welcome to the onesided world of affiliate marketing where the affiliate lacks the information they need to make sound decisions.

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    All right. Thank you so very much for putting my thought's into words. Here is what I came up with.....

    NOTE...it is possible for parasites to hijack a click. If the parasite replaces the tracking code before it reaches the server, then you would never know about the click. Parasites have also been know to overwrite the ads on sites.


    The next issue is the number of click throughs that turn into sales (conversion ratio). This is largely out of your hands, it is also where the parasites like eBates love to hang out. They popup on sites with coupons to try and lure the end user away from the sale.


    >>> I've had up to 3500 expossures and not a single click through. is that normal?

    I guess the final area is in the paying department. This is what I thought you were saying. If someone logs into Linkshare and has your check sent to a different address, or if the check gets lost in the mail then you don't get a check. This last one is easy to solve as Linkshare has a report on when and where they send checks.

    Ihave 357.88 for June and 132.93 for July and haven't received a check yet. Is this normal?

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    ALso I noticed that it says that I got paid in the merchant payment history. I never received a check since Januray / 2003

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R:

    >>> I've had up to 3500 expossures and not a single click through. is that normal?


    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If you have had 3500 exposures and not a single click through, then I would suspect a coding problem - not meant as an insult, just a reality. The tracking HTML includes 2 parts, the graphic which is used to track exposures, and the href link itself which calls the destination page when clicked. Perhaps the image is correctly coded, but the href link is not.

    I know how easy this is to do. I often insert the target="_blank" by hand, and have from time to time screwed up the passed variables, resulting in just what you have been describing. I would suggest that the reason you saw the traffic properly when you "encrypted" your page was because you re-formed the links and they were able to track properly again.

    Why don't I suspect this is all the work of pirates? Because the pirates haven't been THAT successful in putting their p*rasite tools on EVERYONE's computer. Certainly not your own that you used to test, right?

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    Neat. Thank you for your attention.

    If I click on the link and I'm forwarded to the proper place is it safe to assume that everything is o.k. or coulc there still be a problem?

    If I click on one of my links and I am forwarded to the site like I am supposed to then what's up.

    ALso, before I encrypted the site this happened (3 months prior) this is why I encrypted in the first place.

    What would you suggest?

    I think i'm being personaly targeted by some real net savvy people which write there own scripts, perhaps similar to parasiteware.

    Not sure what to do now.

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