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    When somebody click on a merchant link, it generates 2 cookies. I know the important one for tracking sales is qksrv.

    1. So how does this qksrv cookie is able to track a sale when a sale in made through the merchant server?!

    2. And how does CJ prevents merchant in cheating or something like that?

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    I cannot answer your first question but hang around someone will answer it for you.

    The answer to your second question is, in short they don't. In fact it is commonly believed that CJ (and others) go out of their way to encourage both merchants and parasites to cheat and steal from us by various means.

    They have a COC which we have to abide by or we are kicked out within days, but the parasites get 60 days as many times as they need and they still do not get kicked out.

    In fact it has been known for CJ themselves to disregard their own COC, aparently it only apertains to us small affiliates and we all know they don't give a shoot about us when they can let the big boys (read parasites) steal, redirect, divert, place long time cookies on our computers etc. and still reap in their cut.

    So if you want to read the COC do so by all means but don't forget it is not worth the paper it is written on.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Gordon:
    So if you want to read the COC do so by all means but don't forget it is not worth the paper it is written on.


    Code of Conduct:



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    RedFish,

    I refer you to a post I made in February explaining CJ tracking:
    http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&...9&m=7546081642

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    Here are some notes I've compiled:

    On CJ, all cookies that are created by "non batch merchant's" seem to be kept track of in the www.commission-junction and www.qksrv cookie files. These cookies are IE6 compliant and cookies are not adversely effected if your site uses frames. The CJ files are centralized in that each click updates or appends new information in it as needed to cover a specific merchnat.

    Batch merchant's not only have an entry written in the CJ cookies file but also have a
    merchant cookie created that the merchant uses in tracking and reporting sales. Batched
    merchant's may or may not be IE6 compliant and individual testing is needed to be done to see
    if using frames will impact a cookie write or not.

    Summary - If you click on a cj link the two files www.commission-junction[?].txt and www.qksrv[?].txt should be updated - if these files are not updated something is VERY likely
    wrong!

    If the merchant does batch processing and a merchant cookie is not created or updated -
    something is likely wrong!

    As far as getting credit, the cj cookies are placed on the machine by CJ and the merchant writes their own cookie if they use bacth processing. These cookies are read at the time of a sale by the merchant and if they exist, then they are to report the sales info to CJ (not sure how this works at all).

    Obviously batched sales have the most leeway and ability for a merchant to intervene and do manipulations. The batched merchant system is almost completely "honor based" and massive abuse can be done regarding reporting or "not reporting" sales made.

    Reversals seems to be the equalizer for non batched merchants to abuse the system. Think about it are most of your revarsals from batched merchants or.... the ones who are not batched. The crooks who manipulate the batch system don't have as much a need to do reversals.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by happypoon:
    These cookies are read at the time of a sale by the merchant and if they exist, then they are to report the sales info to CJ (not sure how this works at all).




    What happens is simple. The merchant reads the cookie at checkout and creates a transaction file which is sent to CJ once a day. CJ processes the file and creates transactions based on the information in the file.

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    Hi Akiva,

    I've read your post as suggested and understand a lot from it. There are some more enquiries.

    1. How do 1x1 pixel send the information of subtotal, merchant ID ...?

    2. So, do a merchant need to inform CJ on EVERY sale that is made so that could compare and see if it is from a CJ affiliate?

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    RedFish,

    Information in the pixel is dynamically generated by the merchant's ecommerce system. As for reporting sales, I don't know what *every* merchant does, but at EssentialApparel.com and SportsFanfare.com our systems contact CJ's servers during every transaction so CJ can read cookies on the customer's computer.

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    But how do they store those information in a 1x1 pixel that might probably be 1 or 2 byte?

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    "Pixel" does not mean that the info is *in* the pixel. Rather what happens is that information is sent to CJ via the IMG SRC= tag and CJ returns a 1x1 clear pixel. The actual SRC of the image is a script located on CJ's servers and the data the merchant sends is generated dynamically. Bottom line is that it works. You don't have to understand how it works to make money

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    What is it with these people calling CJ cookies spyware?

    http://www.safersite.com/PestInfo/Q/...are_Cookie.asp

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    Kelly,

    I am just doing more research on this, but it apprears most spyware software identifies and deletes affiliate cookies. There is a very heated thread going on about this now in the mdnight cafe.

    Aluria flags commission junction cookies as spyware

    http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=...6326040963&p=1

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