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    I'm doing the easysitehits thing too. I'll give a full report when the campaign is done. I sell my own product on my site and have a very proven track record with my conversion ratio so if this campaign results in zero sales, he won't be able to blame my lack of sales ability. My site converts fine with Overture, FindWhat, Google (adwords and regular), TargetBlaster, Sprinks, 6 Email campaigns and ClickXchange... so the bottom line with me is whether his traffic converts or not.

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    Heather, what do you think of TargetBlaster?

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    Except for the email campaigns, I listed my sources of paid traffic in the order of effectiveness (by descending order of cost of sales). In that way, they are in the middle. That's what matters most to me.

    On the bad side, I don't really like the lack of control. Imagine Overture, but you only pick one keyword and they run everything in the keyword suggestion tool. I think if they let me pick my keywords that I could do better than Overture and Findwhat.

    On the good side, I don't have to do anything to manage the account. They do everything. It's probly just a matter of style. Do you like to be in control or do you like to turn it all over to them?

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    I'm a control freak, so that might be a problem [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    I'm very lazy.. think I'll take a look

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    Heather:

    What genrally was your return on investment ratio? 2 to 1, 30 to 1, etc. ?

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    Lmao Spiderman. <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon38.gif>

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    My campaign still isn't complete. Here's an interim report.

    The "1,000-2,000" daily hits promised on their page is significantly more than I have seen (75-300).

    I am way past the point where I would have expected a sale.

    There is no "referrer" listed in the logs. IP's seem sufficiently random to not suggest a 'bot.

    It's not surprising that no sales have resulted. There have been no clicks to any links on my site whatsoever from this traffic...

    I definitely do NOT recommend this program at this time. I will provide an update when my campaign is finished or if any sales result in the mean-time.

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    Thanks for the update. Sounds like another one to avoid!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There is no "referrer" listed in the logs<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    jada, was this your experience?

    hey fred, sounds like one for your legal begal if you can walk the walk as well as you talk the talk

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    I'm also waiting on the hits to finish before reporting, but I will also state that the referers for the individual sites do not show. There are two referrers that seem to be related to easysitehits, but the bulk of the traffic is listed with "No Referrer".

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    Psycho - Yes - No referral listed except for some hits from an easysitehits rotator.

    [ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: JadaKiss ]

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    I can't tell if my campaign is supposed to be finished or not. They don't provide statistics and they haven't answered email.

    I can tell you that I didn't receive any sales. My average for this amount of traffic would have been 8.

    It also appears that they came up significantly short in number of popups delivered. I'll give you exact numbers in about a week when I am sure that they are finished.

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    Here's my final report:

    I only tracked about 83% of the hits they claimed to deliver.

    They have no online tracking. You apparently have to guess when the campaign is complete.

    There is no referrer in the log for most of the pageviews. In the few cases that a referrer exists, it it for their inhouse rotator. So it is impossible to confirm the source of the traffic.

    No-one clicked on any link on my site from this source of traffic. Hmm...

    The IP's and browsers were sufficiently random to not suggest a hit bot.

    And the bottom line is: Zero sales. The owner previously blamed the target site of another ABW member on the inability to sell. I can assure you that I have a decent conversion ratio and would have expected 16-28 sales from this amount of investment with any other source of traffic I use.

    I do NOT recommend Easy Site Hits.

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    Just the fact that the owner Keith ... or whoever ... did'nt show back up after the sheet hit the fan ...

    Is prove enough to me that this program is a waste of $$$.

    Thanks for your report Heather [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Dave

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    I was told, by Keith, that I would know the campaign was over when I got an email from him stating so... I'll buzz over to my logs and see what is happening.

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    I am not saying this true - I am just saying what you said is not true either.

    Seemingly random ip addresses with no referring urls and no clicks on pages could very well be a bot. They could spoof the ip to fake where the request is coming from, the request would be filled by the server and be served off into never, never land.

    Do your stats count reloads? If there are no reloads on that many hits, something is fishy.

    Do your stats resolve the ipaddress to a domain? If not and you have a list of ipaddresses, you could email them to me and I could batch resolve them to see if there is something fishy - no aol, resolving to name servers or mail servers, or just resolving into dead space etc.

    Let me know.

    Cheznoir@portalofevil.com

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    I too purchased the easysitehits package. I too do not recommend this program. I did receive an email from Keith when all the clicks were done. However I did not receive one sale from this either. I know because I use a special tracking code on my page which people have to click to order. And I used a special URL just for this advertising. They are now promoting a 'Clicks on Classified' program which is supposed to be pay per click. I might have made a mistake, but I did purchase 1000 clicks from this program also. This has not started for me yet, so I don't know if it will be any better or not.

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    I have finally started to receive my clicks from the 'Clicks on Advertising' program I talked about in my above post. I have received 355 clicks so far, and not one person has even clicked on my order link on the page. I recommend to stay away from easysitehits.com. My offer has an excellent conversion to sales with any other advertising I do, and since this is pay per click and it is supposedly targetted traffic, this is very poor. I also had the same results with their popunder program. Something smells fishy here, do not use any of their programs.

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    Good reporting - thanks everyone.

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    I've now received between 900 and 1000 clicks from the 'Clicks on Classified' service from easysitehits.com, and have not received one order. Not even one click on any link on my website. Stay far away from this one.

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    Dj'yall see the review of these pay for pop-unders in Allyn Gardyne's lates Associate Programs newsletter?

    Basically the same thumbs down on EasyHits.

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    Hi webmistress,

    I don't subscribe to that newsletter. Can you fill us in on the gist of it? Were there any pop-under programs given the thumbs up? Was adscholar reviewed?

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    ASSOCIATE PROGRAMS NEWSLETTER #194
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>===============================================
    2. My pop-under test results - not entirely bad
    ===============================================

    In the recent reader survey I ran, some respondents asked for
    results of marketing experiments I do, including the failures.

    Here's a marketing test that was far from successful...

    After EasySiteHits launched an affiliate program for its pop-
    under traffic, I did an experiment buying pop-under traffic
    from different sources.

    Christopher Pearce created a CGI script for me which tracked the
    number of pop-unders delivered and the conversion rate for each
    advertising campaign.

    For the experiment I used a pop-under which has been achieving a
    10.5% conversion rate when used on AssociatePrograms.com. It
    seeks subscriptions to this newsletter.

    The results: I paid from 42 cents to $9 (ouch!) per subscriber.

    I like to think that no marketing test is a failure because at
    least I learn what NOT to do - like paying $9 per subscriber.

    Here are the results:

    http://www.i-web-marketing.com
    Bought 20,000 unique visitors for $149
    We registered 12,032 impressions.
    Subscriptions 53
    $149 / 53 = $2.81
    Cost per subscriber $2.81
    http://www.EasySiteHits.com
    Bought 10,000 for $89.95
    (split into two categories, marketing and webmasters)
    Marketing category
    We registered 4,272 impressions
    Subscriptions 5
    Cost per subscriber $9

    EasySiteHits
    Webmasters category
    We registered 4,135 impressions
    Subscriptions 8
    Cost per subscriber $5.62

    http://www.WebHitsDirect.com
    Bought 10,000 for $89.95
    We registered 9,072
    Subscriptions 26
    Cost per subscriber $3.46

    http://www.SiteGadgets.com
    Jim Reardon offered me 12,500 as a gift
    (usual price about $2 or less per 1,000)
    His software registered 16,000 impressions
    Our CGI program saw 10,774.
    Subscriptions 59
    Cost per subscriber: $0.42 cents.

    Note: The cost per 1,000 usually declines sharply if you buy a
    larger number.

    (I intended to test http://www.fastclick.com but decided not to
    when I discovered that it wants a minimum of $1,000 to launch an
    advertising campaign. Far too much for a test, I reckon.)

    So, what I have learned?

    * A pop-under which works OK on my site won't necessarily work
    well when I try it elsewhere.

    * I need to experiment with the pop-under words and design. A
    more powerful benefits-laden offer should increase the
    conversion rate. Trying different colors and graphics would be
    interesting.

    * There can be a huge difference between the number of
    impressions paid for and the number my tracking sees. (Some of
    the ad sites offer technical explanations for this.)

    * I'm not interested in debating whether the impressions paid
    for were delivered. What matters is how many sales or
    subscriptions are achieved per dollar paid.

    * If you want to buy pop-under traffic and have a site aimed at
    webmasters, Jim Reardon's http://SiteGadgets.com has the best
    deal I've come across at about $2 per thousand. (There's no
    affiliate program for that.)


    If anyone is offering a better deal, please let me know.

    Verdict:If you want to buy pop-under traffic, start cautiously,
    do lots of experimenting and track the results.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    To subscribe, just send a blank e-mail to:

    associateprog@add.postmastergeneral.com


    Maybe it's time to start a thread on recommended newsletters to try to keep up on. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] So much information, so little time.

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    Nice report!

    I'm a little leary about the SiteGadget part since he admitted a relationship with the guy that runs it and got it for free. I'm going to check them out though.

    I am also curious about his EasySiteHits results. He actually had some action. I had suspicions of EasySiteHits just being a 'bot since I didn't even receive a single click on any link. I suppose it isn't very hard to manually enter 8 email subscriptions though.

    I agree with the author. The impressions, clicks or whatever just don't matter. It's sales (or newsletter signups in his case) that matter.

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