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    Next question.
    Anyone use any of these?
    <ul><LI>PayPal Standard Rate
    <LI>ibill.com
    <LI>ccnow
    <LI>kagi
    <LI>ccbill
    <LI>verotel
    <LI>digibuy
    <LI>clickbank</u>

    I have someone looking to sell info at $25 a pop. I voted for PayPal (lowest out of pocket and rapidly becoming one of my favorite ways to pay on line) and ClickBank. ClickBank is more expensive, but there is an affiliate force around there. Some of the others (digibuy, ccbill, verotel, ibill) also have built in affiliate capabilities, but how many affiliate marketers know they exist (or do I need another cup of coffee to wake up?)?

    Thanks for any input, as always.

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    I would go with both Clickbank and PayPal.

    CB has over 100,000 affiliates and if you have something good that really sells, you can make some serious money there.

    PayPal is good for the quick payment set up.
    And the price is right.


    The rest are so-so.

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    Being a ClickBank affiliate, I detest sites that give my visitors another payment option. It's not right that I send traffic and then the visitor buys through PayPal and I don't get a commission for the purchase.

    I recommended ClickBank to start. He can change it later, and I think the added affiliate network is a plus (okay, I'm biased and I see a new niche possibly opening up :eek: ).

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    Webmistress....Heres our experience with CCBill. For starters, most of their users are from adult sites, so expect a lot of mail with Pam Anderson look-a-likes with a lot showing (I'm talking snail mail, not e-mail). One of their referraly services known as CCBucks is also porn. If you attempt to add a new sub-account you will notice the options are listed are for adult sites only. When we signed up with them, it wasn't obvious that they handled adult sites, that changed a few months ago when they pushed it a little harder...I dropped them at that point....Also, Their fees are a little steep at close to 15%, plus they add other fees to that. It isn't feasible if you are selling a product (maybe a subscription that costs you nothing to produce). One you may be interested in (even though they have a $50 dollar set-up) is 2checkout.com. The fees are more reasonable than CCBill...If you need more on our experiences with CCBill, please don't hesitate to ask.


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    If you have an info product, I would probably use Clickbank and then make a separate site with a different URL and use
    Pay Pal for that. Same info two sites. One for CB affiliates to make money.

    One for PayPal for the rest.

    I haven't done it yet but setting up a site specifically for Pay Pal people looks like a good idea. Pay Pay has 12 million members. That's a big pool to fish in for sales.

    I know some guys in Aussie land who are doing real well with $10 to $49 products and services you can only buy through the paypal
    set-up.

    One thing the recurring billing deal on paypal is 'da kind' compared to anything that I know about.

    I got the Pay Pal debit card and the Visa.
    I just go to the ATM and take out the money.
    Or use the money in the account to pay the Visa bill.

    Pay Pal pretty much has it wired for making things REAL SIMPLE.

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    have a read of the other side of paypal.
    You should at least be aware of some of the horror stories before committing yourself
    paypalsucks.com Forum
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    I have used PayPal for some time, and it's a great tool. Also, they have an online mall they will add your site to if you use paypal on the site. I listed last week and have a wopping 4 clickthroughs so far.....but hey, it's free traffic - and maybe it'll pick up if I work my site a little better.

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    Wow, thanks for the heads up on CCBill, Tom. We almost used them about a year ago for domain registrations. Then the partner with the registration stuff didn't really get involved and we never did much with the whole thing.

    I like using PayPal. My host offers multiple methods of payment. And I should mention that they all track commissions from cj.

    Professor, I actually appreciate the idea there. :eek:
    (Is the world ending yet?)

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    Wow, Pete, that paypal forum was an eye opener.

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    I have a huge paypal horror story - like $12k worth...but it was resolved by my bank in three days and the people who did it are n jail and I got the money back.

    And alot of the pay pal horror happened when they had just started and basically grew faster than they thought.

    So far in the last 6 months - no problems and everything has worked great.

    Heck I even started to put some shareasale links up since they pay by paypal. Got $121 the other day from promoting just one of their merchants.

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    Does anyone get paid by ccbill?

    The program I am signing up for uses them for tracking as well as payment.

    The tracking sounds great with only a 15 minute delay!

    They claim I will get a check from ccbill every week based on my sales.

    Anyone with experience here?

    Thanks in advance [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Breeze,
    Their checks to us were timely. There was one lost check, but they replaced it pretty quickly. Keep in mind that they do take out a lot of fees on each order...a holding fee, etc. I advise to seek a cheaper alternative. Rumor has it that 2checkout is working on a similar affiliate type program...

    Tom Pyles

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    I've been using ibill for several years. Sometimes my customers complain that their (good)credit cards aren't accepted, but other than that I have no problems with them.

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    I'm going to be closing my PayPal accounts before I get the PayPal thumbscrews. FutureQuest had a nightmare with them. If FQ can get the shaft, it's only a matter of time.
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...5&pagenumber=2

    Where Deb posted to vent.

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    webmistress,

    Thanks for pointing out that my affiliates can get screwed by having two payment methods! I have ClickBank and PAYPAL on my merchant site, and hardly anyone uses PAYPAL to buy but still.

    I can always put up another site to sell with PAYPAL if I feel I want to do so.

    I think I may remove PAYPAL buying from my site. I was thinking about it anyway but now I have a really good reason.

    [ 04-12-2002: Message edited by: Planetwide Exodus ]

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    I use TicketEddy
    To me, saving 1% or 2% more is important to me. While others don't care whether they pay 14.5% or 15% on fees, I rather pay 12.5% if I can.


    Quote Originally Posted by webmarm
    Next question.
    Anyone use any of these?
    <ul><LI>PayPal Standard Rate
    <LI>ibill.com
    <LI>ccnow
    <LI>kagi
    <LI>ccbill
    <LI>verotel
    <LI>digibuy
    <LI>clickbank</u>

    I have someone looking to sell info at $25 a pop. I voted for PayPal (lowest out of pocket and rapidly becoming one of my favorite ways to pay on line) and ClickBank. ClickBank is more expensive, but there is an affiliate force around there. Some of the others (digibuy, ccbill, verotel, ibill) also have built in affiliate capabilities, but how many affiliate marketers know they exist (or do I need another cup of coffee to wake up?)?

    Thanks for any input, as always.

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    Closing PayPal account.
    You have a foresight. PayPal is not one I like to deal with. They can cancel your account at the hit of a key and you can't reach them ever. When they cancel your account, they also freeze your money, albeit you have 10s of 1000s in it. That should be illegal, but they got away with the agreement you "signed" when you join them. Avoid is what I would suggest.

    Quote Originally Posted by webmarm
    I'm going to be closing my PayPal accounts before I get the PayPal thumbscrews. FutureQuest had a nightmare with them. If FQ can get the shaft, it's only a matter of time.
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...5&pagenumber=2

    Where Deb posted to vent.

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    skeptico, you might want to look at the dates on threads you are replying too, this one is from 2002 and a LOT has changed since then.
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