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    Hiya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    I've decided to take the plunge into the crazy fast-moving world of website affiliation, but before I choose a suitable domain name, I was wondering: -

    Generally speaking, do sub-domains (eg www.dvds.forexample.com) do better or worse in the search rankings than full domains (eg www.dvdsforexample.com)?

    Obviously it's cheaper and better brand-wise to do sub-domains of a decent URL, but I'm prepared to stump up more cash for seperate domains if that will help my visibility (although I am but a poor and wretched student [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Hope somebody out there has the answer.

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    A more major concern should be whether a potential customer has confidence to buy from you.
    The cost of a domain name, spread out over time, is only about three cents a day. If you don't take your business seriously enough to cough up that kind of dough, a potential customer isn't going to take you seriously either.
    As far as search engine ranking for subdomains, sometimes you can get a good ranking, but often you just won't get indexed at all. I once had a small commercial site on a free host that ranked top 10 under several primo keywords and phrases on Lycos, but didn't get indexed by any other SE's at all.
    Get your own domain name! IMPERATIVE! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    Oh, believe me I'm prepared to buy a domain name [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    I'm not sure whether or not I made myself clear though - if I have a sub-domain of my domain name, for example www.dvds.buycheapstuff.com, are you saying that search engines will just plain ignore the contents of that sub-domain? Or did you just mean if it was a sub-domain of a popular free host, such as Lycos?

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    It depends. Some may judge by content, some will just ignore subdomains.
    As far as the site on Lycos, maybe it was favored because it was a Tripod site, maybe not. Who knows?
    As a general rule though, you will have little to no luck with a subdomain for a commercial site.

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    There is no difference in search engine ranking between domains and sub-domains. It depends on content and search engine readyness only.
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    Hi Freon and welcome [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Can't give you a definite answer but have you considered using sub-directories i.e. www.forexample.com/DVDs/? I think someone here suggested that this is just as effective with the search engines as using a sub-domain because they don't differentiate between a . and a / Its also cheaper than sub-domains and gives infinite options.

    Its also a hell of lot easier if your webhost turns out to be unreliable and you need to move your domain/website to a new host. If you've got several subdomains you could pay much more for those with a new host (I got my fingers burnt with this scenario recently). But using sub-directories you can move your domain and site anywhere at minimal cost.

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    I guess every coin has 2 sides. We use several subdomains, but as tmd5 points out, watch the host. We use our subdomains mainly as a matter of convenience. For example our support section is at
    support.thmedia.net or
    domains.thmedia.net I also have these set for many of our services. I think it is easier on our clients knowing they can get info by doing directly to the sub-domain.

    [ 05-09-2002: Message edited by: TH Media ]

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    Hiya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Well, a couple of contradictory answers so far [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    I like the idea of sub-directories - sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.

    I've actually found a provider who offers unlimited free sub-domains, who I doubt is going to the wall any time soon (although I guess you can never be sure).

    However, until the site goes live, I think I'll design around the idea of sub-directories, and see how I go.

    Thanks for the help guys [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    I like sub directories best too.

    Hi Freon!


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    freon,

    Hi and Welcome to ABW! <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/welcome.gif>

    There is no need for *any* trepidation of repercussions from a SE for a subdomain listing or the spidering thereof.

    Interpretation by an end user, as described above, maybe another issue, however, that is not your q, so I'll refrain.

    Haiko

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    Interesting, I've been thinking of doing a couple things with subdomains also, such as shopping.tipsdr.com or software.tipsdr.com as examples. Are you saying I should buy a domain for each because people would like that better, or because they would trust it better. I would've thought if they were already familiar with a site, that subdomains would help the user with their confiodence, is that not the case?

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    What I mean by use of a domain name to instill customer confidence is this: If your domain name is something like http://mypage.freebiehost.com or something like that, you will have credibility problems if you are a commercial site.

    In the past I have submitted several subdomain sites, all with reasonable and unique content, to as many search engines as possible. As far as I know, the only one that ever got indexed at all was the Lycos example mentioned above.

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    Since years I have a couple of websites with sub-domains of freeservers.com ans swsites.net. I also have own domains, and I found no difference in promoting between them and also I did not realize any probs with customers. One thing disturbes: The free sub-domains have sometimes pop-ups from advertisers of the host.

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    The average surfer doesn't know the difference (and that covers the vast majority of people online) between a domain,sub domain,free site or whatever.
    The same goes for web design as long as its not too bad,I'm living proof on that point.
    I've seen free sites with good rankings in many different SEs.If you want to see some really rough sites in a directory try Yahoo

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    Sure, I'll give you more confusing data [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] .

    I prefer the directory method for all of the reasons stated above, and because I have a limit to subdomains on my host [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] .

    I use IRM's a lot. My host allows five IRM's on any one full account, so that's six domain names on one account. For many domain names I have multiple directories. See above.

    I also made a little site to market one merchant's items on a free host and it's doing fine in the SE's and in the bank. I will probably move it to a "real" account on a "real domain name" to increase it's SE exposure, but nobody seems to mind the subdomain.theshoppe.com at all, even the SE's.

    All that said, I'm not a professional SEO, just an affiliate marketer trying to get past the next plateau in income. :cool:

    p.s. The syntax of a subdomain does not include the www bit. So your subdomain would be http://spareparts.buycheapstuff.com .

    [ 05-11-2002: Message edited by: webmistress ]

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    Using sub-domains is the same as using directories. I ran a test on this recently by changing one of my sites from directories to subs. I used the directory names as the subs, and kept the pages the same. The result in goole after a complete indexing was that my site held its ranking and didn't move an inch. The sub-domains also held similar positions to the previous directory pages.

    As an added note, using subs is not expensive.. it's free if you get your own servers..

    Regards,
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