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    This comes from the Search Engine Strategies 2002 Conference, March
    4-5, Boston, MA. In a Search Engine Strategies session entitled
    "The Search Engine Spam Police," representatives from search engines
    Inktomi, Google, FAST Search, and web directories LookSmart and the Open
    Directory Project explored the issue of spamming and presented the
    audience with some general guidelines to follow. These are considered spam:

    (1) Affiliate sites with same or similar content but a different site
    designs.

    (2) Mirror sites. Submitting mirror URLs to different categories is also
    considered spam. Multi-lingual sites are acceptable as long as the URL
    resolves to the appropriate language.

    (3) Sites that use redirects or any type of bait-and-switch practice.
    Using frames to hide a real URL, commonly referred to as "poor man's
    cloaking," is also considered spam.

    (4) Sites whose sole purpose is to drive traffic to affiliate links or
    sites that contain these types of links.

    So according to #4, if you have, say, a mall with lots of affiliate links, then that is spam?

    [ 05-29-2002: Message edited by: hershey ]

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    Domain Addict / Formerly known as elbowcreek Thomas A. Rice's Avatar
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    Yeah, unless you pay them to be placed at the top of their search engine, in which case you are a legitimate, quality site. The double standard amazes me.

    [ 05-29-2002: Message edited by: elbowcreek ]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>(4) Sites whose sole purpose is to drive traffic to affiliate links or
    sites that contain these types of links.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sites that contain these types of links? They'd better be really careful with their wording there. Yeesh, even labor-of-love content sites need to pay their bills somehow! What do these folks suggest instead???

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    No-way to that definition. I prefer to think of my sites as "a unique collection of links which will help the surfer find what they want"

    My sites, and those of most folks here are NOT spam. :mad:

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    Hello ?

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> ... or
    sites that contain these types of links [Affiliate Links] .
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Doesn't that include NEARLY EVERY site on the Web?

    That's a pretty broad definition. What a joke.

    My definition of SPAM would include some reference to unsolicited intrusion, not the diatribe of flatulence this conference effuses.

    Doc

    [ 05-30-2002: Message edited by: Doc Sawyer ]

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    Doc,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My definition of SPAM would include some reference to unsolicited intrusion, not the diatribe of flatulence this conference effuses.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Mrs. Farnsworth would be proud, I agree, as well, FWIW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    Haiko

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    So, what's the point...let's buy Inktomi and put all the rest out of biz...It's got everything you want already set up...just fire all the managers and marketing people and go from there.

    Can't lose deal...anyone got a hundred million laying around.

    Ditto, Critical Path.

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    I will get a hard-on seeing Larry Page and company standing in the food stamp line.

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    Jeez EcomCity and my other Cybermalls perfectly match #4 definition of a SE spammer. For someone who never sent out a single e-mail opt-in offering ..now I'm a spammer. Thank got 18% of my traffic comes from highly earned bookmarks.

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    Mike,

    Welcome to the FOS club...glad you are on board.

    FOS = Fat Old Spammer.

    Guess the SEO can't afford dictionaries and simply make up meaning as they go along.

    Seriously, anyone know anyone who has a few hundred million laying around. Buying Inktomi and Critical Path would give you a huge already built infrastructure at 90% below replacement costs.

    All it would take to make it work would be trash the managers and marketing people and
    replace them with REAL people who actually can walk and chew gum at the same time.

    You get global scale search and email infrasture for cheap, plus major techie know how - all you need to make them hugely profitable is to use them for what they are already doing and plug in a CPA factor with a
    before the stupid pills Overture and you dance to the bank.

    Adios, everyone else but Yahoo, AOL and MSN and maybe GOOGLE.

    Think about it.

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    I thought spam was that stuff that looks vaguely like ham that comes in a can and appears to be a food product although I've never heard of anyone actually eating it.

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    I've never, ever heard that (#4) definition of spam.....who said that? My bet is that it was one of the directories and not a search engine.

    Sorry to go against popular opinion, but I understand why ODP doesn't want a bunch of tacky affiliate link farm type sites in its directory when it can have the merchants themselves.

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    The problem with the #4 definition is that as presently worded it would rule out a lot of useful content sites -- and quite a few merchant sites too -- as well as "tacky affiliate link farm type sites".

    I'd like to point out that "tackiness" is a different issue from "affiliateness." Please don't add to negative stereotypes by careless wording!

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    Affiliates are the "door to door sales people" of the 21st century. In other words, we are despised, hated, and avoided like the plague. However, interestingly, people still buy through our sites (ching-ching $$$$$)!

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