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    Any thought on the use of trafficmultiplier.com?

    Appears that it is like banner exchange, except that it uses pop-under windows.

    Anyone have any experience with it?

    Thanks.

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    I use it and have been very happy with it.

    The two best things about them are 1)you can choose your target audience/categories that you want your page to be displayed to, and 2)they screen their members to make sure there is no questionable (porn, etc.) content being displayed to your site's visitors.

    If you do choose to use them, I sure wouldn't mind of you use my aff. link:
    http://get.trafficmultiplier.com/1006688

    They also give you a log of which pages your page was displayed after, so you can a)determine whether they are meeting your targeting needs, and b)refine your targeting selections if needed.

    You can add the traffic multiplier code to any or all of the pages on your site, so you can pile up credits for the page you have displayed by them.

    This can be used to test new pages by directing immediate traffic to them before they get indexed by the SE's.

    [ 06-05-2002: Message edited by: Deelz ]

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    Deelz, I joined through your link, to experiment, and up to this point my site logs are only showing about one-quarter as many referrals from Traffic Multiplier as they say I've had.

    I'm concerned about this discrepancy. What has been your experience here?

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    In my mind trafficmultiplier is a special form of scumware. It kills online advertising and takes visitors away. The reason why is found in an article I found ( source avilable if needed)

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    Moreover, Internet users are a "captive audience". It is easy to flip ad-besieged channels on TV, or turn the ad-laden leaf of a newspaper. It is close to impossible to avoid an ad on the Net. Banner ads are an integral part of the page. Pop-up ads pop up. Embedded ads are embedded. One needs to install special applications to avoid the harassment.

    This leads to desensitization and a revolt of the user. Users resent the intrusion, are incensed by the coercive tactics of advertisers, nerve wrecked by protracted download times, and unnerved by the content of many of the ads. This is not an environment conducive to clinching deals or converting to sales.

    There is also the issue of credibility. The bulk of online advertising emanates from dot.coms. Even prior to the recent stock exchange meltdown, these were not considered paragons of rectitude and truth in advertising. People learned to distrust most of what they read in Internet ads. Scorched by scams, false promises, faulty products, shoddy or non- existent customer care, broken links, or all of the above - users learned to ignore Web advertising and relegate it to their mental dust bins.
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    Deelz, you said you were very happy with them. I am happy if the sun shines. But did you turn your happiness into money? And how much more than before?

    Jonny

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>kills online advertising and takes visitors away.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Jonny, if you are so disapproving, why does the site in your profile have an irrelevant popup? At least popunders are less obtrusive, and TrafficMultiplier seems to take care about targeting!

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    You guys using popunders best keep it quiet. The company who now holds the patent on Pop Unders trolls these boards seeking to send bills to all those not paying them a royality. These traffic scamming pop-under exchanges will disappear shortly and I personally hate them at the major sites like Yahoo when they're filled with flash ads. Hope Yahoo has to pay out millions and also looses those slow loading Flash Ads on their news and forum pages. Online Ad industry needs to weed out 50% of all their employees to get down to having a fucus to real value at the end of the clicks. No landing page value or deceptive click Tom Foolery has a definate negative effect on advertisers.

    [ 06-15-2002: Message edited by: EcomCity.com ]

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    I used this popup first when the advertiser came to me 2 years ago and said that it would be possible to arise my earnings of 100% by using pops.At that time there was no such a pressure through pops to the consumer like today and I let it where it is. But even this popup shows me how consumers act. I do not sell any item from them, and right, I should delete it. Some busy day.

    Jonny :rolleyes:

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Deelz, I joined through your link, to experiment, and up to this point my site logs are only showing about one-quarter as many referrals from Traffic Multiplier as they say I've had.
    I'm concerned about this discrepancy. What has been your experience here?
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Many of the referrals will show up in your logs as if somebody had simply typed in the url.

    This is easy enough to test for; as I said, I like to use it to direct traffic to NEW pages that are not yet indexed by (or even submitted to) any of the SE's. For instance: if you get 1000 unique page views to pages that you have the TM code inserted into, and you get 66% as many hits to your display page during the same time period, then you know that it is working.

    It has worked very well for me for making new pages productive before the SE's pick them up.

    Jonny - as far as "how much more" - it's a mixed bag. Some successful trials and some not-so-successful. But anything is more than nothing.

    I never was the biggest fan of popups or popunders, but this particular firm does at least have the class to 1)screen their clients to insure that there is no lowlife scumbag trash being promoted by their clients, and 2)it is a fairly unobtrusive popunder with a title of "a polite ad"; it's not in-your-face barrage that makes you want to just pull the plug.

    BUCKWORKS - Thank You [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Many of the referrals will show up in your logs as if somebody had simply typed in the url.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Nope, there's something going on besides that - the number they're showing for my "credits received" (since I joined on June 5) is higher than the total page views the site (it's a one-page wonder) is showing for all of June so far. Any other ideas?

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    How much higher? It's supposed to be a 3-to-2 ratio; 3 credits gets 2 page views.

    All the numbers have lined up for me so far. If you think something's wrong, send her an email with your concerns. She seems like a very nice lady; I had contacted her early on about the same issue and she cleared it up for me. As I say - it's easy enough to give it the blotter test by displaying a page that you know is not going to get any traffic from anywhere else.

    I hope all turns out OK - I trust your judgement and if you can confirm any discrepancies I appreciate any information you can offer. I'll start watching it too for a little while to see if there is any unusual activity (or lack thereof).

    Thanks.

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    BUCKWORKS - How's it working out?

    I checked my logs and all my numbers for TM look OK.

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    I've been away and haven't check numbers etc. for a few days. I'll let you know.

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    Deelz,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It has worked very well for me for making new pages productive before the SE's pick them up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You have got too much time on your hands my friend!

    Wanna optimize a few pages for me? lol

    I'll join through your link anyway... hold on to your seat!<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/up2something.gif>

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    OK,
    I signed up for my cute little MOM site.
    I figure they won't approved my screaming in your face Pagan stuff but people will find the rest through MOM.

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    Breeze, SSanf - Thank You

    And SSanf, I'm sure they'll approve your page; they screen for foul language, porn, hate, etc. They don't seem to make value judgements based on their own personal taste. Besides, if you think about it, what would the internet be without sites like yours? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Keep in mind: they allow you to put the TM code into any or all pages of your site, so take advantage of this. In other words, if you have 10 pages that receive 100 visitors, and you have the TM code in each page, you get 1000 credits for your display page [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
    (Believe it or not, a lot of people don't think to do this)

    [ 06-19-2002: Message edited by: Deelz ]

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