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    Web Ho - Design B!tch ~Michelle's Avatar
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    Hi,

    I have moved my site to a new URL. Will I be penalized in rankings or removed from the search engines for placing an auto redirect to the new URL on the existing page?

    ~Michelle

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    You will not get credit for the links that you have gained from other sites to your old URL. This means that you should, while the old URL is still in the Google database, find all the sites that link to the old URL and request that they link to the new one.

    I have a web site with a PR of 6 that gets plenty of Google traffic and has a redirect from the old URL. Luckily, I was able to get nearly all the people who linked to the old URL to link to the new one. Since this is a major hassle for everyone, and since some links get lost in the process, this is a good argument for keeping the same URL, which is easiest when you have a domain name.

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    You must do a 301 permanently moved redirect.

    Create a file called .htaccess (remember the dot before htaccess)

    On the first two lines in this file, write:
    Redirect 301 http://www.olddomain.com/ http://www.newdomain.com/
    Redirect 301 http://olddomain.com/ http://www.newdomain.com/

    Save as as txt, but remove any txt-ending if your OS insists on adding such to the file. This file must be named .htaccess

    Upload the file to your www-root folder in ascii mode (not binary!).

    Your old links will automatically be redirected to your new domain, the same goes for Pagerank/Google. No penalty and you will not lose credit. You must of course keep your old domain name.

    Anybody, PLEASE verify or correct me if I'm wrong about the format of the .htaccess file, since it's pretty late at night where I am [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


    added: If you do a soft redirect with meta refresh or inline javascript, then yes, you will be penalized.


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    Ok, here's the deal.

    I can't do the htaccess thing because the site was nestled in as a subdirectory on my main site that had a totally different topic. So I don't want to redirect everyone, just the people that come to that subdirectory.

    This is what I have done so far. I have posted a BIG message on the main page of my site telling my visitors about the new domain name, with a link, telling them to update their bookmarks.

    I have changed all the affilate links over so that when someone clicks on one, it actually comes from my new URL/server.

    I have changed all my links to internal pages so they actually go to my new url. The only page that is sitting on the old is main page now. (The rest are still there, but you can't click through to them)

    I have written each site that links back to me and requested that they update the link and I have heard back from all except for about 3 saying they have done so.

    I resubmitted my site, using the new URL to the search engines.

    So, should I just leave it as is until the search engines start listing the new url?

    ~Michelle

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, should I just leave it as is until the search engines start listing the new url?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, good work. As said above, you will not get credit for incoming links before Google picks up on that. May take a while.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ~Michelle:
    I can't do the htaccess thing because the site was nestled in as a subdirectory on my main site that had a totally different topic. So I don't want to redirect everyone, just the people that come to that subdirectory.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You can still htaccess visitors. Use:

    <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Redirect 301 http://www.olddomain.com/subdirectory/ http://www.newdomain.com/
    Redirect 301 http://olddomain.com/subdirectory/ http://www.newdomain.com/</pre>

    Again, have this verified. And test.

    The advantage of htaccess is that Google will continue to credit you for incoming links if someone are still linking to your old place.

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    Weeeelll..... you *will* lose some PageRank if you don't use a "permanent redirect", but if you only have ONE outbound link from the OLD page to the NEW page, you should retain almost all the page rank. It's not ideal though, but the less outbound links (i.e. ads) there are, the better,

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    Also the .htaccess file needs to be uploaded to into the subdirectory of the old domain.

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    I created the .htaccess file as direct above.

    I uploaded it into the subdirectory of the old domain in the ASCII mode.

    When I click on a link to the old site, I am still taken to the old site.

    I tried adding index.html to the end of the old url in the .htaccess file and that also didn't work.

    Any ideas?

    I really appreciate the help so far. :-)

    ~Michelle

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    You can also put this in your meta tags of your index.html page:
    &lt;meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=http://www.newdomain.com"&gt;

    I don't know how that will effect your page rank/search engines...

    With your .htaccess..make sure it is saved as just that. It is called (without the quotes) '.htaccess' Somepeople will accidentally put something in front of the '.'.

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    Hey, I figured out why it didn't work.

    First I had to remove the 301 part
    then to type it like this

    Redirect /oldsubdomain.com http://www.newdomain.com


    That works if you type in olddomain.com/directory/ or www.olddomain.com/directory/

    Thanks again everyone!

    ~Michelle

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    Just to clarify:

    You will *not* lose pagerank if you do a permanent redirect with htaccess:

    Redirect 301 = Permanent redirect
    Redirect 302 = Temporary redirect

    And you *need* 301 in there. I can't from the top of my head say exactly about the code, but since writing the from-url as a complete url didn't work, try:

    <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
    Redirect 301 /olddirectory etc
    Redirect permanent /olddirectory etc
    </pre>

    or do a search on google


    Your pagerank will *not* be carried over if you do a soft redirect (meta refresh redirect or inline javascript) - on the contrary, in worst case your page may get dropped by google.

    BLFH, thanks for pointing that out.

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    I added the 301 back in and it is still working fine.

    I found a pretty decent site that gave directions on ways to use .htaccess Here is the URL in case anyone wants to check it out.

    http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess.shtml

    Thanks again!

    ~Michelle

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    So just to be sure I have this down, I move files to the new folder, but how long should I wait before I change the links on my site to point to that new folder? Just until google re-indexes them?

    Thanks! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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