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    Wouldn't that be something.

    http://www.forbes.com/home/2003/07/1..._0714yhoo.html

    An excerpt, read last sentence:

    "The surprise play would be if Microsoft just carved off, say, $5 billion of its $46 billion cash load and made a bid for Google itself. The venture capitalists behind the company say Google's founders will not sell at any price, but Google's chief executive says he has to consider any serious offer."

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    IMHO, I don't think Michael Moritz or John Doerr would let it go to Redmond.

    I think that LinkExchange was the only M$ acquisition that Sequoia was involved in.

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    They should sell. If you're offered billions of dollars, take it (that is my motto).

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    The thing that google has to look at, is, MSN is not going to end up #2 or #3 in any field it decides to dominate. I mean, how many people here use WordPerfect? Lotus? Netscape? If google does not sell out, and MSN decides to dominate that industry, Google better be ready for an extended, money flushing battle for traffic.

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    Elbow:
    I agree. Idealism is a great attribute, but Google will be hard pressed to stick to its guns once Microsoft starts pouring money into a battle. Wonder if that skirmish would rekindle the anti-trust litigation?
    Hmmmmm ...


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    Don't forget that Microsoft has several tricks up its sleeve.

    First, and most importantly, Microsoft has the right to use anyone else's intellectual property without paying for it, or even informing the originator of such property. So, MSN could just rip PageRank straight off Google, and indeed probably get hold of the algorithm secretly. Far fetched? Nope, it's been done by Microsoft before.

    Secondly, it's not impossible to make a decent search engine. For example, Alltheweb is about as good as Google even though the engineering is different. However, if you add Overture, Looksmart and Inktomi crap to the results, you'll just get the mess that MSN is now.

    Finally, Microsoft is ruthless and committed. Microsoft's aim is to be the #1 in all fields and to use whatever means it can to get there. Although not generally an innovative company, it's prepared to learn from others and come up with polished products that the punters will buy into.

    So, Microsoft doesn't *need* Google. There's no reason it couldn't go off and write a perfectly good search engine from scratch.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dynamoo:
    So, Microsoft doesn't *need* Google. There's no reason it couldn't go off and write a perfectly good search engine from scratch.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Look at all the activity from the new "MSNBot" crawling the web...

    It has not been widely publicized, however they are very active...goobling up everything in site. No shortage of money for servers, hardrives or bandwidth either. Microsoft has what it needs, all the $$$ in the world to develop and hire whomever it needs to...

    Ever heard of browserless search, being able to search from your desktop application or taskbar? Why "go" to a site to visit another, just start on your taskbar or on your desktop application. Scarry..

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    Andy:
    That model has parasite written all over it!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by phillyBurbs.com:
    Andy:
    That model has parasite written all over it!

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    Completely agree....

    However, you think we have a hard time fighting the current parasites, try fighting the 1,000 lb Gorrilla..

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    Should be very interesting and fun in the (near?) future, 3 heavyweights going at it:

    Google vs. MSN. vs. Yahoo

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I mean, how many people here use WordPerfect? Lotus? Netscape? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Um, I use Lotus. But then again, I use Teoma as well.

    I'm looking foward to seeing what MSN's new search engine is like. The browserless search thing isn't really going to impact the search market too much - you need to be online to search and if you're online, then there really isn't too much advantage to using an MSN taskbar or application. After all, you can search directly from the address bar in IE - but how many people actually do that compared with the numbers that go to google.com.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markymark:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I mean, how many people here use WordPerfect? Lotus? Netscape? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Um, I use Lotus. But then again, I use Teoma as well.

    I'm looking foward to seeing what MSN's new search engine is like. The browserless search thing isn't really going to impact the search market too much - you need to be online to search and if you're online, then there really isn't too much advantage to using an MSN taskbar or application. After all, you can search directly from the address bar in IE - but how many people actually do that compared with the numbers that go to google.com.

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    Well, look at the average internet user today.

    Aol users enter domain addresses in the AOL Search and regular IE users enter domain addresses into the MSN Search Box of IE after they got an error when they misspelled the URL the first time.

    The average joe does not know the difference between a "search" box and "url" (address).
    And it's getting worse. The number of uneducated users on the net increases every day. The Net is not a place for Comupter Professionals only anymore. The average Consumer is now part of it.. a big part.

    Integrate the web "search" into the operating system even more and most people will ask in the future: "Google" what? What is a "Search Engine"?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ever heard of browserless search, being able to search from your desktop application or taskbar? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The Google Toolbar...

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Leader:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ever heard of browserless search, being able to search from your desktop application or taskbar? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The Google Toolbar...

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Well.. how much people know about it and more intersting how much people use it?

    It does not come with the computer they buy and barely understand in the first place.
    Like the TV. Pretty much everybody has it and knows how to use it, but almost nobody understands it.


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