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    A new site (run by the Google Watch guy) called Scroogle demonstrates how Google is stripping certain results from the SERPs.. typically the sorts of results that affiliate optimise for.

    It's interesting and worrying to read, and it shows just what a problem Google is having with keeping the SERPs clean. The hitlist is interesing too (warning: some sexually explicit terms).

    I don't normally agree with Google Watch, but this is an interesting site.

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    It is very interesting indeed. I saw it at webmasterworld yesterday.

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    Hey Moo,

    for some reason, I can't see the article you mentioned - maybe I'm in the wrong section?? The one with the weightlifter dislocating his elbow - man, that looks painful...I should know, I've done it before too...

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    i can't find any list, what happened?

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    Are you talking about the scroogle tool? If so the domain ends with .org not .com I also tried that link listed above but had no luck in finding a list.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> http://www.scroogle.org <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    ah, yes that must be right - shows all my home pages dropped

    google is horrible


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    Not loading for me.

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    its scroogle.org

    Wow, you might want to check your keywords and compare them with your adwords (if you have them) I found too many to think of it as coincidence.
    Looks like populair adwords are "penalty" words now.
    (What would make sense in some sort of economical way, for Google, that is)
    Nasty stuff

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    google is really nasty

    i don't like it any more

    so there

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    I checked 8 of my keywords and I couldn't tell a major difference between the optimization of the sites that are currently ranked and the optimization of the ones that are no longer ranked except that a lot of the ones that aren't ranked had the search term in their domain.

    That seems quite off based on common sense (why get rid of a site that seems to be about the term being searched for???), but that was the result in the searches I tried.

    Two of the results returned a couple of really crazy results not anywhere near what the search was for.

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    Damn, i can't get it to come up
    http://www.scroogle.org right?

    all i get is a
    The page cannot be displayed

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    Yep. That's it. I clicked through the link you listed and it came up for me that way too.

    Perhaps you aren't thinking happy thoughts when you are clicking your mouse?

    How about trying the full link? http://www.scroogle.org/index.html

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    OK third attempt on the original post.

    Here's a few common affiliate search terms and the number of the top 100 results chopped:

    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Christmas Gifts - 79
    <LI>Credit Cards - 75
    <LI>Bank Loan - 75
    <LI>Jewelry - 49
    <LI>Discount Jewelry - 85
    <LI>Discount Hotels - 55
    <LI>Airline Tickets - 67
    <LI>Affiliate Marketing - 74
    <LI>Gift Baskets - 68
    <LI>Candles - 65
    <LI>Foreclosure - 86[/list]

    Now, if you have a top ranking for a term like these, then you're screwed.

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    Would explain this thread about the credit cards:
    http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&...9&m=9586025894

    Still can't get the damn thing to load

    All i see is ...Go damnit.

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    Maybe you can get the hitlist of most penalised terms up (note, there seems to be a competition to find those terms with 100/100 banned.. be warned some of the search terms are pretty unpleasant).

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    Can't get to anything for some reason, tried IE and Netscape and get a connection refused.

    Hmm, just tried with AOL browser and now i can see it.

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    Wow, what a mess. They took out a lot, left a lot, took some sites out they shouldn't have. Should be an interesting SE year coming up. Yahoo switching to INK soon, MSN Search when? Google trying to get rid of SPAM and going public soon.

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    Just done a check on a couple of my clients who got hit badly. One search term they've removed 86 of the top 100 and the other they've removed 92 of the top 100. This is fun, in a perverse kinda way.

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    OK, so my home page that used to rank well for 'widgetcolor widgettype' is now nowhere to be found. However, it's still there for the more competitive single word 'widgettype'. I optimized it for the 2 keywords and that's what it's been hit for.

    Any ideas about cheap fixes? What if I optimize for e.g. 'blah blah widgetcolor blah blah widgettype blah' instead of 'widgettype widgetcolor'... would my penalty then be on the new search string that I don't care about, giving me a shot at the money term again?

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    I would probably not make a single change yet, as these new "filters" all seem to start out at the "max" setting, and then seem to get dialed back a bit until the google staff find a reasaonable balance.

    I'd say in 3-4 weeks, if your still MIA for your target keywords, then start thinking about changes.

    I had a similar thing happen to a very popular (non-profit) site back in august, and it was back in about 3-4 weeks or so.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It is very interesting indeed. I saw it at webmasterworld yesterday.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Funny. I don't see it mentioned at WMW. Was it in the google news section ?

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    WHOA! I used to do SEO for a living, but now I don't even keep track of my rankings. Especially on the Catalyst site, since I'm not really looking for new clients right now.

    Just used the tool for fun and checked -affiliate management consultant - saw all the sites that were missing - then decided to go to Google to see how far down I was.

    Catalyst is #2 out of 339,000 and the top site isn't even relevant. So that's why I keep getting so many calls lately from potential new clients. Maybe if you ignore your site and rankings for awhile Florida likes them better, dunno. I sure have not had time to work on that site for awhile.

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    Another blow for the "tricks for Clicks" players and the cream like Linda rises to the top. Everyone of my ecommerce clients were un effected and some rise to the top without ant SEO changes.

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    Not sure where Scroogle takes its findings from because for 1 particular keyword which my site has been MIA from - it tells me that I am in no 1 position in the current top 100 in google and when I do go to look in google, I can't find my site (which is why I keyed in that phrase in the first place). I thought that perhaps it was a regional google thing and got a friend to type in the same keyword in CA and I'm still MIA...

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