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    I received a google adsense update via email today. They will be paying you less, but expect you to get more clicks.

    <email snip>
    Now, with the new AdWords pricing
    model, well also automatically adjust the price of clicks across
    the Google Network based on their expected value to the
    advertiser. A number of factors will be taken into account when
    calculating the expected value, including the keywords or
    concepts that triggered the ad. For example, a click on an ad for
    digital cameras on a web page about photography tips may be worth
    less than a click on the same ad appearing next to a review of
    digital cameras.
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    The downward spiral begins. IMHO

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    Thats the major problem with Adsense, that only Google knows what % they are taking and can adjust anything on the fly. There will be some major competition coming when Yahoo/Overture release their contextual advertising model. Overture advertisers pay more and hopefully their terms will be a little more clear.

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    How do you know the changes are bad if you don't yet know what the impact is?

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    Well there is always an issue with strict contextual ads, you are showing them to a restricted limited audience, how do you sell someone toothpaste who is not reading about toothpaste? So I think google wants to keep growing and needs some expansion.

    I have noticed some of the ads have gotten a little looser lately and I imagine this is it so less compensation in a sense makes sense - maybe. But as others said, it is all such a mystery, the question is, is it a mystery to the advertisers now? I haven't logged in to check or hunt, but are some clicks now discounted?

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    From the email.
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> A few publishers will
    see a decline in revenues. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    AND
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> we're introducing enhancements to our pricing model for
    advertisers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    This means advertisers pay less, which means you earn less.

    This is just my guess. You will soon see "Low Adsense revenue" posts and that will prove me right.

    I like your optimism though.

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    We're just finishing up our first partial month with Adsense.

    We had a couple of sites that were getting decent traffic, but we were struggling to make them pay for themselves... nothing that we did made any difference at all.

    We basically then succumbed to the Dark Side of the Google Force and added Adsense to these sites.

    We're eatin' steak next month.



    I can appreciate the revenue drop will be a problem for some of you. For us, the sites weren't doing squat anyways, so *anything* was a revenue boost.

    CodeJockey.

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    Although I don't like it I think this was an expected and necessary "improvement". If you're an advertiser you'll pay less for lower quality clicks. It's only natural. Now let's hope we'll soon see the competition from Yahoo/OV.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Squiggie:
    &lt;email snip&gt;
    ... For example, a click on an ad for
    digital cameras on a web page about photography tips may be worth less than a click on the same ad appearing next to a review of digital cameras.
    &lt;/email snip&gt;
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    I guess my question would be how to differentiate a photography page from a digital camera review page? Both are photography related.

    I guess Google must be looking to reward super targeted sites. After all, advertisres are looking for some sort of ROI when they run Adwords. Is cont*ent still king with Adsense? Who knows, I am still confused

    Hey anyone know when this will take effect?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CodeJockey:
    We're eatin' steak next month.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Hey CJ, long time no chat. Congrats and enjoy the steaks!

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    So bob95603,

    How are your adsense numbers looking today?

    Mine are down about 40% so far across the board.

    Anyone else?

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    Squiggie,

    When you say 40% down, is that impressions, clicks or revenue?

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    I'm finding most of my pages at the moment aren't showing GoogleAds, they're showing my alternative banner (good for branding).

    So impressions/clicks are down.

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    Squiggie

    Clicks are down but revenue per click is higher so it's a wash.

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    Impressions, clicks up, revenue same level as the past few weeks. But I always see changes as the night wears on, I don't think the revenue is accurate until closer to midnight PST.
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    We take into account many factors such as what keywords or concepts triggered the ad, as well as the type of site on which the ad was served.

    This does indicate they are looking at "the type of a site" and taking actions accordingly "that effect their revenue" as well as ours. The more they look at "the type of site" and analyize those that bring them "reduced fees", the stage is set for "further optimization".

    Headlines should read:
    From Google - They are "looking at the type of site" and positioning themselves for actions that effect their revenue stream.

    Would you expect anything less from a multi-billion dollar company?

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    Adsense loves content. Which is great cos finally some content sites of mine have paid their way.


    The difference will be easier to measure now we have tagging options...
    I'm not sure the additional effort will be worth it in trying to win win with it - probably quite easy just to watch stats decline then pull them if they get too low.

    What sort of content it will like best may remain a mystery unless someone is prepared to do a lot of measuring.

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    Monthly earnings the same...a years business hosting paid in a month !

    Ask me again in June


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    My clicks are down, but it makes sense, b/c the quality of ads has decreased. For example, one of my sites, Cow Dance used to have exclusively ads for cow parade gifts and a few other cow gift sites. Now it has sites selling diapers and baby items. What does that have to do with dancing cows Anyway, I have tried to exclude these type of links when I see them. Things were better b4 thery made this silly change.

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    Hahaha, the attack of the diaper bags ads!!! They are popping up everywhere!!! I was on a lingerie site and they were there too!!! And on my pets, cats and dogs sites.... Gotta wonder what is messed up there!!!!
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    Was wondering why my click through rates were dropping on adsense...ahh...it must be those diaper ads then, hardly relevant to any of my sites I can add...

    Cows and diapers...now that's relevancy by google standards?

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    Maybe they think "moo" is a variant of "goo," which is in turn a variant of "goo-goo" baby talk?
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    Or perhaps they've made the association that babies drink milk??

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    I consider adsense a good affiliate program. One of the things that I like the most is the fact that there are no reversal here. And you can get some decent commissions .

    My earnings are up since they made the change.

    PS I always like to see the positive part of everything.

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    Baby stuff on lingerie sites sure could kill the sales of lingerie!

    Buy this and get pregnant! You will need baby bags!

    They should put up condom ads, too!
    Comments are opinion unless otherwise noted. Remember, pillage first. Then burn. Half of all people in the world have IQs under 100. You best learn to trust ol' SSanf!

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