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    I am just curious about how much money other
    people are making off affiliate marketing for clickbank products.

    Also, are you using ppc marketing to do your campaigns? Or are you running your own web site?


    How many different products are you promoting?

    Thank you

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    Read some other posts
    There are also many unhappy with them

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    I was very happy with Clickbank up until April
    and May of this year. Now I'm waiting for
    another company to give them some competition.

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    I am with clickbank as a content site. 100% of my processing has been with them since January this year (I used to use Paypal before then).

    So far my logs show this month 53 referrals a day from clickbank hoplinks. Against over a 4,000 a day from the top 5 referers (Google, Yahoo, MSN and two specialist sites).

    Sales from clickbank are nil - why? Is anyone out there actually promoting the clickbank sites or are they just running another boring shopping directory listing?

    Do you actually go to the clickbank sites and see what they have to offer, or are your links an autogeneration script, souless and boring?

    If your sales depend on the latter then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

    If you really want to earn money then promote the sites properly.

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    I am working with only two merchants from
    Clickbank and all traffic comes to my site.
    I have been promoting programs of this type
    since 1999. I still say I was happy with them
    up until April and May of this year. I do have
    a mall on my site but do not promote this mall
    and none of my paid advertising goes to my mall.
    I consistently got at least 2% conversions with
    these products up until the last two months.

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    Or maybe it's just that gas prices are so
    danged high now that people aren't spending
    their money on things they don't need.

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    march and april were good months for me

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    I've just read an interesting post on the
    Clickbank Success forum. I am copying the
    contents of the post below and I think any
    affiliates caught doing this should have their
    accounts closed and commissions forfeited:
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    There definatly is a problem with spyware affecting affiliate sales. I have had more than one affiliate have problems with this. He would send someone a his clickbank affiliate URL ... the person would purchase .. and he would never be credited with the sale and write me telling me the sale was not recorded. I would go in and check the persons name who ordered just to see the sale had actually gone to another affiliate. This was the strangest thing because I think this guy was sending his link directly to people he knew .. not just doing a general ad on the internet. The credit kept going to the same affiliate over and over. Finally he was on another computer and typed in his affilite link to test it and a pop up came up for my site but it was the "other" affiliates link in the pop up. Finally after much testing we found that the affiliate that was getting the credit for the sales instead of the affiliate I was dealing with must have been bidding on affiliate URLs as "key words".

    For example .. gain or gator one of the most popular ad ware programs on many computers lets you bid on "key" words and everytime a "key word" is typed in or a site containing that key word is show they will put a pop up of "your" site on top. On clickbank it is the "last" affiliate link to show that gets credit for the sale. I wrote Tom at clickbank to confirm this because of the problem we were having. All you have to do is start doing searches for key words on google and you can see the affiliates that heavily promote each product. If you bid only on their affiliate hop link then "your" hop link will pop up when theres is clicked on and override your sale. Even if the person closes the pop up and purchases from the original site the hop link has been overriden by the pop up. This happened over and over .. at least 40 times.

    The merchant would never know this was happening because he would just see an affiliate sale being made ... and only a affiliate that knew 100% he sent this particular person would know he lost the sale this way.

    I think this is happening more than most people realize.

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    Wow!
    Clickbank needs to step up and improve their checkout system/ Cookies.

    There needs to be something done.

    I wonder how long the cookies stay on their computer.

    I do ppc marketing. Currently i stopped may 1st. I still had like 5 sales!

    Those sales must have came from cookies stored in their computer. They must have been a returning customer.

    They need to make a High Tech- Tracking Program that tracks us affiliates sales.

    That would help greatly.

    We would even know our strong and weak keywords.

    And spend less marketing money with greater returns.

    Another problem i see with clickbank is the lack of interest in most of their programs. They need to get better programs for us to promote.

    95% of the crap they got is not interesting.

    Clickbank would be great if they stepped up a bit.

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    Finding good Click bank merchants can be tough, but the few that I've found so far make me 30K/mo. Hopefully I can find a few more and improve that number.

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    Clickbank does have the problem that it is notoriously easy to swap affiliate ID and therefore the people you refer can just swap their own ID into the link and get the commission themselves.

    Also I would be careful about promoting any product aimed at webmasters (because they are more savvy) where the product sales page has a link to sign up for the affiliate program. Webmasters will do just that and get the commission for themselves.

    I use to promote a product that converted well and then the merchant put up a link to his affiliate program on the sales page. Although I am number 1 in Google for this very popular product, sales fell to zero. I changed my pre-sell and diverted my visitors to a "better" product where I persuaded the merchant to remove his affiliate program link. Conversion for that product is now good.


    I use Clickbank for my own affiliate programs and use a script by Adrian Ling called ezClickmate. This software helps prevent affiliate theft. I really wish more Clickbank merchants would do something like this to protect their own affiliates.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I use Clickbank for my own affiliate programs and use a script by Adrian Ling called ezClickmate. This software helps prevent affiliate theft. I really wish more Clickbank merchants would do something like this to protect their own affiliates. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    If thats the same software they're talking about over on the other forum site, doesn't it give the merchant the capability to turn off an affiliate's commissions by just checking a box? If so, whats the difference between "affiliate theft" and merchant theft?

    The way they were explaining it, the merchants product shows up in the ClickBank Marketplace where an unsuspecting affiliate signs up for it by getting his ClickBank vendor link. Thinking he's in business he then sends traffic to the site, maybe even spending money on ads. What actually is happening in some cases is that the merchant is only paying commissions to those affiliates that have joined his private affiliate program (outside of ClickBank) by checking the above mentioned box.

    The affiliate never sees any commissions on sales made with the traffic he sent and there is no way of telling who runs this software and who don't at the ClickBank marketplace or even by going to some of the merchants sites since some may not even advertise their own affiliate program and only offer it by private invitation!

    If auto setting cookies is illegal for affiliates how can it be legal for a merchant? I really like the ClickBank setup because its so easy but with all the sleazy merchants and products and lack of oversite from ClickBank to rid itself of this type of activity I just can't feel comfortable with them anymore.

    I think Wayne has the right idea for ClickBank, if you can find just a handfull of merchants that can prove themselves to be worthy of promotion (by whatever ruler you use) then leave the rest alone, which doesn't sound good for portals and search scripts.

    IMHO: I don't think I want to promote a merchant that saves me from evil affiliates by overwritting my cookies if I failed to signup twice for the affiliation.

    "to protect their own affiliates." I guess the key words here are "their own" but what about all the other approved ClickBank affiliates that got there cookies overwritten and never even know it? I guess I'll have to start emailing each merchant to make sure they don't use this stuff before I can promote them with any peace of mind.

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    I am not aware of these features of the software. I use an older version which certainly does not allow me to switch off an affiliates commissions.

    Any merchant who did this would soon be caught out (like some merchants from the networks who have had tracking turned off in the past) and would not survive as a merchant.

    As for only allowing affiliates to promote your stuff if they sign up specifically for your program - I think it is a good idea. Help prevent commission theft by affiliates. I do not make it easy for anyone to promote my stuff without having bought it. Having affiliate sign up links on your pages just means referrers dont get credit for their referrals. From my own experience of selling stuff using ezClickMate less than 1% of my sales have had IDs swapped.

    I also agree with Wayne that you do need to find good merchants to promote but then that is the same with any affiliate program.

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    What Roadkill is referring to is, there is an option in the software to enforce registration, but it is set off by default. The merchant can change this to enforce registration. If he does this, and the affiliate is not registered with the merchant, using the hoplink will not give credit. The problem I have with this is, some of these merchants may not even have a link to their affiliate program on their site explaining that registration with them is required to earn commissions. And on Clickbank's site right next to the listing in the Clickbank marketplace they give a hoplink to use which they say to use to earn commission. So I think that either all merchants should be required to have a link to their affiliate page in the marketplace with their terms if Clickbank wants to allow this, or there needs to be some notice there alerting affiliates that they need to register with the merchant also and not just with Clickbank. So it looks like just because we use the hoplink that Clickbank gives us, this will not necessarily give us credit for sales anymore if the merchant is enforcing registration. There has been a lengthy debate about this on the Clickbank Success Forum, maybe Clickbank will give a reply to it tomorrow.

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    I can see your point, but think that being able to enforce registration is a good thing as it prevent affiliate commission theft.

    However, as the system stands now it is unfair if affiliates are unaware of this feature being enabled in the affiliate program. Like you say, a link to the affiliate program terms & conditions could resolve this.

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    Or alternatively have the merchants products removed from the MarketPlace if they enforce affiliate registration. I personally would be happy to have my products removed from the Marketplace.

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    I just wish Clickbank would make these changes
    themselves instead of having to have 3rd party
    products create their own software. The way it
    is now, anyone can create their own software
    and give commissions to anyone they want to,
    the hoplink doesn't really mean anything
    anymore. The merchants can use software to
    ignore the hoplink and give credit to whoever
    they make the software out to give it to. I do
    believe there are a lot of good uses with this
    software, I just don't like the way merchants
    can change the rules so easily. There are other
    software products which set a Clickbank cookie
    automatically when the visitor comes to your
    site, and you don't even need to be promoting
    that product on the page, it just sets the
    cookie. It seems like anything goes nowadays.
    Clickbank definitely needs to be making some
    changes on their site if they are going to
    allow this. They say to use the hoplink to earn
    commissions, this is not necessarily true
    anymore. They might as well start requiring
    everyone to sign up with each individual
    merchant to promote them like CJ does.

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    Yes I agree Wayne.

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    Have anyone tested the Spyware Remover program, there are giving 75% comission. Anyone can recommend banners etc?

    http: // hop . clickbank . net / ? XXXXX/ spywarerem

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    Anyone working with Clickbank should keep a
    close eye on this forum:

    http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com...opic.php?t=343

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sharestr:
    It is difficut to earn money from ClickBank. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Not at all. You need to promote the right products and put some time & ad money into it.

    Results will follow, promote the right product and you could be making $60-$150 per day in commissions.


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    CBprosense -a contextual ad delivery system (web site plug-in) designed specifically for ClickBank affiliates.

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    Hi there,

    Thats my first Post

    I'm an affiliate of some products from Clickbank.
    I've started about 15 days ago... and until now..i didnt sell nothing.
    Thats very frustrating...

    Best regards,
    Fillipe

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    I was making like $150/mo earlier this year, and now im down to nothing. I was only promoting one product, and I was promoting them on different money making sites.

    I also don't think its hard to sell clickbank products. You just need to have a good understanding of the market you are selling to. Who they are, what they do, how much they spend on things, etc etc. And of course, how in demand is the product? And are tons of other people promoting this similar product as well?

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    kimjoy85,

    Are you cloaking your ClickBank links?

    There are some spy ware applications out there known to still affiliates commissions and replace your ClickBank hoplinks by the scumware aff link.

    This may explain the drop in sales you are experiencing.

    Also, you may want to check our ClickBank Auto product feed. It is free, and if placed on the right pages can produce good sales on your behalf.

    More info here:
    http://www.cbprosense.net

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